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crazyamor
07-14-03, 11:21 PM
I met this woman for over a year and a half ago, Her and I study in a foreign country, when I met her she was engaged and her boyfriend was living in her country of origin. A year later I told her about my feelings for her. She got married with the old boyfriend (dating him over 8 years) she told me in many ways that she had to do it, also told me that she loves him. She still kept calling me even after i tried to kiss her once in my apartment, So I stopped answering her phonecalls and I told her the reason why, That now she is married and my case is hopless. I dont ask her out anymore, we stop going out. So My question is why is she mad at me NOW? everytime I see her in school she is always pissed at me, why? is not that what she wanted? Always trying to pick up a fight with me? I dont confront her because what for? but why is she behaving like this. Does she hate me because maybe she was using me and now she can't, does she want/love me in a weird way? Do i love her? yes. Do i have hopes? a little but I'm just trying to keep on with my life and I dont konw what to do everytime I see her in school. We'll be together for another 3 years, she sees her husband every 2-3 months for 5 days at a time. Thanks for any help I am in a foreign country and I need some advice in the psycology of women.

Mesmerix
07-22-03, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by crazyamor
So My question is why is she mad at me NOW? everytime I see her in school she is always pissed at me, why? is not that what she wanted? Always trying to pick up a fight with me? I dont confront her because what for? but why is she behaving like this. Does she hate me because maybe she was using me and now she can't, does she want/love me in a weird way?

Let me see if I can help, though I'm no psychologist. She's mad at you for the simple reason that you are basically rejecting her. Rejection is hard, even if you already have a Spouse. Especially if she actually loves you, I can only imagine the pain she feels and is most likely expressing it through anger.

There are 2 possible situations here and I'll try to help you with both of them.

1. She loves you. If this is truly the case, then her marriage is one of convience or was possibly arranged. If in her heart she truly loves you, she will come back to you. She's mad because she's in pain of loss.

2. She was using you for fun. This option sucks, but women are evil (yes I'm a women and most of us are very evil). If this is the case, she's mad at you because you rejected her and now she can't play little games with your head anymore.

Either way, she loves you or loves you not, you got to Shit or get off the Pot. What I mean by this, is you got to make the decision to chase this woman down or get the hell over her. She's married, been messing with your head as far as I can tell, and doesn't seem like the greatest of people so I would advise to GET OFF THE POT. But, if your heart really cries out to her and you love her sooooo much, chase her down, tell her you love her, EXPECT heartache, EXPECT the worse and keep beating yourself into the ground for the name of love. Good luck.

A little helpful story if you opt for Chasing. A boy once chased me for 2 freaking years telling me he loved me and wanted to date me. I shot him down repeatedly and a couple times told him to fuck off..........

He's now my boyfriend of 2 years and I love him very much.

Xev
07-22-03, 02:53 AM
Have you considered suicide? 100% effective and you won't annoy people by posting inane shit on the wrong subforum.

Zero
07-22-03, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Xev
Have you considered suicide? 100% effective and you won't annoy people by posting inane shit on the wrong subforum.

:bugeye:

Halo
07-22-03, 12:07 PM
Maybe she is mad because now she has nobody to talk to in a far off country. Her man isn't there to love and support her and now you are not talking to her. Oh well, she'll get over it. So should you. It all has the markings of a bad situation.

sargentlard
07-22-03, 03:00 PM
We have a idiot on board here.

ripleofdeath
07-23-03, 08:14 AM
crazyamor

selfishness
lack of empathy
lack of ability to understand other peoples feelings
spite
revenge

have i missed any thing

you do not love her
you are obsessed with her
if you loved her you would want her to be happy
you do not want her to be happy based on your choice of actions
now she sees that you do not realy care for her she is pissed off that she wasted her time trying to be a good friend with you
now she feels the loss of a potential friend and the feeling of complete stupidity that she did not judge you for being a self obsessed insensative pigheaded revenge merchant

i salute her on her continued efforts for still making an effort to be friends with you after you tried to force yourself on her

once you found out you could not have sex with her you stopped calling her

what part of your selfish actions have you confused for love
do you think being engaged is not a real commitment to another person
that means that if you were engaged to a women then you would cheat on her if you felt so inclined and drop her for someone else that comes along that takes you fancy at the time

that is a wreakness not a strength

you have allot of learning to do
i suggest you start by trying to make friends with a women without trying to have sex with them

learn what a commitment is
learn what trust is
learn what honest communication is
learn to respect other peoples boundaries

WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO
THEY ALSO WANT TO HAVE FRIENDS

what can you do now
appologise for being soo selfish and not considering her feelings
and ask her if she will forgive you for being a dog
if you are capable of being her friend then tell her you have growen up some more and wish to make a new start as friends
AND STOP TRYING TO GET IN HER PANTS!
and appologise for trying to kiss her

sounds like you threw away a potential good friend!
do you have too many friends?

think about it

good luck
i only hope you are either a fast learner or very young

groove on :)

airavata
07-23-03, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Xev
Have you considered suicide? 100% effective and you won't annoy people by posting inane shit on the wrong subforum.

She says it better than I could carazymour.

plasticwingsmelting
07-24-03, 08:57 AM
ripleofdeath has the right idea...


but so does Halo.


Females are so confusing. This is just a bad situation.

ripleofdeath
07-24-03, 09:55 AM
girls are raised to be physicaly close and touchy feely with each other and other people, giving and recieving kisses and hugs
as a normal level of interaction talking about their deepest feelings and emotions and desires
boys are raised to be loners, only one at the top winners who dont need hugs and affection and told that women are only there for being a girlfriend or wife
any guy who has female friends in school is usualy labeled as a homosexual as a stereotype

you act with no experience yet you seek the sexual interaction

you have two heartaches
1
the women you could have had a friendship with (good luck)
2
your parents for not educating you properly in respecting women as real indeviduals

nothing can be achived by trying to complain to your parents
you only have what you can achive to succeed now
which is the women you could have a good friendship with if it is not too late
start trying to educate yourself about what women like
work-play-home-family
if you wish to participate in all these actions you will have to know how to deal with much more than you can possibly imagine now
all people are complicated regardless of gender

groove on :)

Lucysnow
07-25-03, 02:16 AM
She's pissed because she wants you to want her even if she doesn't want to a relationship with you. What she loves about you is your devotion to her. Women do this all the time and men too on occasion. It's a form of narcissim. You don't really believe that just because someone is in a committed relationship that they no longer want to be desired by others do you?

Lucysnow
07-25-03, 02:25 AM
Ripleofdeath darling, I have to disagree with what you said about the poster. Why should he put up with a cock teaser? She knows he wants her, why is she pretending to be "just a friend". Yea I like having male friends but my male friends are not men who want to have me outside of a friendship...and if they do there was never any move in that direction. He kissed her yea...alls fair in love and war. She made her choice, she can no longer expect him to continue lapping at her skirt. Any guy whom I wanted and did not get then continued to be 'friends' with was a ploy to try and get him at a later date. If I couldn't have him then I don't want to be friends with him. Lustful feelings cannot turn into friendly feelings just like that, one needs space, the space to purge those lustful feelings.

Why is freethoughts the wrong section for this thread?

ripleofdeath
07-25-03, 08:53 AM
Lucysnow

i was assuming no more than what i had interpreted to be that he stopped calling her after a point he had chosen which happened to be after he tried to kiss her
after she had told him she was engaged
any person that pursues a person who has stated a commitment to another is a person who believes in not having monogamist relationships
err go he wants her to cheat on her fiance
so considering it like that he deserves what ever he gets
the good the bad the ugly
i was assuming that she was making an allowance for the friendship after he had tried to kiss her
like giving him a second chance to be a friend
but then i am a bit of an idealist
the majority is that you are potentialy rite
she may want a puppydog to drag around and use as a surrogate
handbag holder and someone to pay for her drinking habit

at no point did he say she had returned any affection
maybe its all just someones odd idea for a script
for some childrens program

who knows
its all quite retarded realy
i was just aiming for the err is human angle
maybe she is trying to create her own stalker and he is a she

11 days on and its all rather singular in construct

Zero
07-25-03, 09:42 AM
Just pull her into bed with you. WTF are you waiting for??

ripleofdeath
07-25-03, 10:15 AM
quote

when I met her she was engaged and her boyfriend was living in her country of origin.
A year later I told her about my feelings for her


She got married with the old boyfriend (dating him over 8 years) she told me in many ways that she had to do it, also told me that she loves him
====
is this written in some sort of code?

maybe i have missed something like maybe she was a slave that had fallen in love with her slavemaster

{if so then i would suggest making more money so you can buy her back-( extreem sarcasim )}

sounds like both partys are from a sheltered selabit upbringing
with thoughts of grandure ingrained in the concept of marriage
and so being engaged is just another way of going steady

hows that for another angle on the story


crazyamor
if you dont answer soon you will loose rights to the book and the movie
:D

ele
08-25-03, 02:54 AM
crazyamor this may sound unethical but what the hell. she wants you you want her you have a lot of time together she wants to explore you more and sex with you by the sound of it. she seems to think it would all be okay.

go for it, just realising the unlikelihood of you ending up married. Its not like the guy is even with her. why do you have to help her do the right thing? she clearly wants youa nd is being upfront with you about her husband.

people can love in more than one way.

why dont you see where it goes. and if you want nothing more to do with her well if she is angry at you just be cold to her.

JoojooSpaceape
08-25-03, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by ripleofdeath
crazyamor

selfishness
lack of empathy
lack of ability to understand other peoples feelings
spite
revenge

have i missed any thing

you do not love her
you are obsessed with her
if you loved her you would want her to be happy
you do not want her to be happy based on your choice of actions

Right on the nose

JoojooSpaceape
08-25-03, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Mesmerix


1. She loves you. If this is truly the case, then her marriage is one of convience or was possibly arranged. If in her heart she truly loves you, she will come back to you. She's mad because she's in pain of loss.



Dont lie to people, Its mean

JoojooSpaceape
08-25-03, 07:26 AM
to put in my own 2 cents instead of just commenting, , you could listen to all these people telling you shes just kidding around wit hher marriage and really loves you, or you could realize she found peace of heart with someone else, and still wants you to be her friend, either way, stop being an ass

outlandish
08-25-03, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Xev
Have you considered suicide? 100% effective and you won't annoy people by posting inane shit on the wrong subforum.

1) In which subforum should this thread be in then?
2) Have you considered suicide?
3) (2) was a rhetorical question, I don't really give a shit.