Israel had pre warning of Jordan attacks

Others were also prosecuted. In fact, Rassam originally cooperated with the FBI, so that they could also catch his partner. Much valuable information about Al Qaeda was obtained in this manner. Later, however, he had second thoughts and decided to be belligerent again. You wanted further proof, I gave you two examples....

Did I ever say that it didn't exist? Hence the concept of retraction. Here is the second article again....

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/643661.html

Not take a guess what they mean by earlier reports. Means they were wrong, and they admitted it. Happens all the time that news organizations retract articles because the source proves to be bogus. My whole point was that your entire thread was based off a retracted article. This remains true. Will I have to repeat it a third time?

Do you read anything that I post? I have already posted that. It exists in the second article as well. I used it to illustrate the fact that the lack of Israelis in the hotel might have something to do with this warning....

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The United States gave the same warning!!! This was no secret. Vague warnings given months in advance are commonplace. Ever here of the U.S. color warning system. Ya know, red, yellow....And I have already illustrated the fact that those hotels have been targeted on multiple plots (THE MILLENIUM PLOT, LIKE I POSTED ABOVE). I will repeat. Your one piece of proof, which was minimal at best before, was retracted by the same news organization that posted it. EVEN if it proved to be true that they knew in advance, it would be major speculation to think that the Israelis actually caused the bombing. This is paranoia at its worst...

 

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What the hell do you think I have been doing most of today for Christs sake ? I thouroughly read each of your links and see they are neither here nor there . The link about the man imprisoned in America hardly even related to any planned attack in Jordan , it looks as though he made a deal with the feds and that is where the story goes cold ! You are the one making these assertions of planned attacks and security warnings to explain Israels actions . Yet you cannot fully substantiate any of what you claim , and then you castigate me for one retracted source .

Minimal !! For the love of all that is holy , , if you read my thread I clearly list 3 sources , the first is the retraction from Haaretz .

Second is the news story which confirms Israeli foreknowledge to counter Haaretz's retraction .

And the 3rd source I used was a posiible target the Israelis would of liked assasinated .

So where do you get this idea my hold conspiracy theory rests on one refuted link ?

Mate , you have not really put up much of a convincing argument have you to counter my theory .

 

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Because his job is to play stupid, pretend he doesn't understand and to generally do anything he can to destroy your thread.

Did you know that Israel has people that go to bulletin boards all over the world for the express purpose of controlling conversations about Israel? It is all documented. They are called Sayyanim I believe. Students from college or old folks with nothing to do go to forums all day long and do what this man is doing to you.

Talking and talking and talking to try and obscure the issues. I will bet you can talk to him for another 5 pages and it will all be confusion, facts from some other investigation or pretending to be stupid.

I seen it all over the internet for years now. Really bad since the invasion and occupation of Iraq ordered by Israel.

 

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Bashir Nafeh is considered to be a moderate by most diplomats. As a matter of fact, he has been involved in many crackdowns of Hamas, and has been envolved in disengagement talks with Israel. If anyone would want him dead, it would be Hamas.

As for the second story, it mostly repeats the information from Haaretz. Amos N. Guiora does make claim, however, that he has sources in Israel. Probably similar to the sources as the Haaretz. He does not go into any detail as to who he speaks of, so this is a luke warm lead at best. Certainly not enough to make a crazy claim like the Israeli's were involved.

 

I think you have a major psychological disorder, called paranoid schizophrenia. Go see a doctor

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don't forget that Zarqawi considers Abbas (head of the PLO, leader of the "Palestinians") as an infidel collaborator.

Brian you're a deranged anti-Semite. it's as simple as that. common sense is not something you are familiar with...

 

This individual was the head of the Palestinian intelligence he knows plenty of what Israel is doing behind Americas back . Ill bet you anything that he knows of mossad cells operating inside Iraq behind Americas back . And I will venture to say he meets regularly with American officials to inform of what he knows . As for HAMAS well the Americans know damn well who is responsible .

The question I ask you is this , since when did HAMAS begin operations outside Israel ?

I gave that link to add weight to my claim of Israeli foreknowledge of this bombing . Israel has done this before especially in The Lavon Affair where Israeli intel planted bombs all through Egypt with desired effect of

See what I mean Israel cannot be trusted and if I was America I would make my ally Jordan , they are more trustworthy .

 

Yeah , you only have to look at those who overly defend Israel on these forums to know that . What I find hilarious is that they pose as white christians and they even use white supremacist literature to bolster their case . But that clearly shows the filthy mind of Zionism .

 

Thank you , I take that as a complement , I now know that what I write is the truth .

 

Let's see, two of the three hotels were owned by Palestinians, mostly Palestinians got killed, including the head of security for the PA, and there is that little matter of yet another advance warning to Israelis before the big bang went off.

Yeah, I'd agree Israel is the most probable culprit.

 

Originally posted by Brian Foley:

This is complete speculation by you, nothing more. You ever hear the term Occam's Razor?

Here is what I have always found to be humerous about the Muslim hate for Israel. Yes, they have treated the Palestinians like dirt, and need to make peace. On September 4th (black september), 1970, however, King Hussein not only killed 2000 PLO soldiers, but also thousands more innocent Palestinian civilians. As many if not more than Israel has killed in the last two intifadas. But see Hussein was muslim, and this is allowed in the Muslim world. I would certainly not trust any of the Hussein family, who are virtual dictators.

In response to your article, Israel was a different country in 1954. Those who intiated the peace programs of today would have been considerd traitors then. Do I completely trust Israel. Of course not. All nations look out for their interests first.

Your own article states the paranoia involved in this...

In other words they are angry, and that anger is focused on an easy source..

This was my favorite. If you look at the names of the dead in 9-11, you see the names of jews all over. Sound familar Brian?

So even most of the Jordanians do not believe your theory. Why do you?


Your theory is basically based off a belief that Israelis left earlier, which is based on shaky proof (retracted article), for a target who the Israelis would not want dead anyway. A man who is a political moderate. Why would Israel blow up THREE hotels to kill one many anyway? Why not just assisinate him by a much simpler method? It makes no sense, because it is an unfounded accusation, based on your obvious hatred for jews....

I hope we are not talking about me, for if you are, you may need to seek professional help, as well.

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I have said from the beginning that this was my theory , and I have given enough evidence to at least cast suspicion on Israel .

Have you ever heard of the term agent provocateuring ?

Oh I think if you looked at Black September you will find that Jordan was under pressure from the Arab League and America in regards to their actions against pulling the PLO into line . Remember Jordan has a freetrade deal with America and is a close ally of America and follows orders . Black September was a Jordanian initiative to stabilize the situation . As for Arab killing Arab so what Europeans kill other Europeans , Asian kill other Asian what a lame point .

Don’t make excuses for Israel’s attacks on American interests fast forward to the year 1967 and the Israelis killed more Americans in the USS Liberty incident . Go to the year 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon and see where Reagan took the side against Israel and sent in the marines to protect the Lebanese against them . And today Israel selling US military technology to China behind Americas back or handing to the Russians free of charge US intelligence as what happened with Jonathan Pollard . No I remain unconvinced that Israel is far different a country than it was in 1956 .

Yeah so ! I posted that article to show that people in Jordan themselves have their suspicions like myself .

That is the people in the street , how do you explain hi ranking Intel sources claiming Israeli foreknowledge the suspicion against Israel is their . As I said WHY would Al Qaeda target Palestinians ? It doesn’t make sense .

I have never broken down the reiligions and races who died on 9/11 its immaterial , obviously you know so how many Jews did die on 9/11 ?

It says ‘most ‘ a most vague description , yet the fact is that Jordanians who are themselves allied to Israel seem convinced of Israeli involvement . Americans themselves don’t trust Israel .

Not it wasn’t retracted the article was re-written but as I have shown that article is still to be found on Haaretz site I gave the link .

Yes they would how much intel did this man have , who was this man meeting in Jordan ? Americans ?

Perhaps there were some others with him they wanted dead as well .

Grow up .

I was meaning Vincent28Uk and kiwi but after reading the above I aint sure .

 

Oh cool! I found another nest of haters who shout "anti semite" at any person with a different viewpoint than theirs.

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happeh, I am sorry, but this line is a typical an anti-semitic line, anyone can spot the difference between criticizing a certain policy and blind all out hate.

 

As to the title of the thread.
Why didn't Arabs listen to Israel's pre warnings announcements?

 

So who is the source? Ha'aretz owes them nothing as, if you are correct, they lied.

This doesn't happen all the time either. Ha'aretz knew the first report would go worldwide in minutes and could never be retracted. An Israel paper is going to be very careful with (or not report at all) an account which says Jews knew of a bombing and got out before hand.

Ha'aretz wanted this story out. Why?

 

"The Mossad target was this innocent Palestinian , another clue that Israel was really behind the bombings in Jordan.. "

So do tell Brian, how did the Mossad get 3 Iraqis to strap bombs to themselves and blow up fellow Arabs?? Are you saying that the 3 Iraqis were Jews?? And lets not forget that Al-Queda claimed responsibility for this attack. Are you trying to say that the Mossad is Al-Queda?? The JEWS are controlling the insurgency??

You NEED MEDICAL HELP

 

Damn, Vincent...Take you meds dude...

 

Since when do pro-Jihadists believe what they say?

 

I am surprised that there's such a hater-poster on a message board?