Life and Dark matter

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by river, Jul 13, 2019.

  1. river

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    How so ? Explain deeper into this thinking .
     
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  3. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    It isn't. That will be disproved someday.

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  5. river

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    It hasn't been proved in the first place .
     
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  7. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    ...and it never will.

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  8. river

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    Indeed .
     
  9. river

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    How so pad ?
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Firstly scientific theory isn't concerned with proof. It follows the scientific methodology and formation of theories according to the weight of evidence, and that at this time, certainly supports DM.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...-for-the-reason-most-physicists-think/#410dc2

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    The gravitational lensing map (blue), overlayed over the optical and X-ray (pink) data of the Bullet cluster. The mismatch is undeniable.
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    As I said in another thread, DM is the glue helping to hold galactic structure together.
    Unless you have a better model or theory with observational evidence to offer?
     
  11. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    One will be produced eventually.

    Unless you can state a truth that will remain so forever, it is false.

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  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You don't know that, and of course if and until something better does come along, the overwhelmingly support and model of DM stands as is.
    Rhetorical nonsense. You need to learn some science, the beauty of which being, that it is always open for scientific improvement, new models/theories based on new evidence and observations, discarding of existing theories if needed, based on further observational data. Until newer data that requires modification of a theory does come along, a scientific theory remains our best estimate/description of what is going on.

    DM is also evident by the gravitational lensing effects it has produced, imo a more profound evidenced based scenario of its existence....
     
  13. river

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    So TheFrogger is correct pad .

    DM , has nothing to do with gravity .

    DM is the transformation of DE , to a physical form .

    Inotherwords , DM is a manifestation , of the beginning lower energy forms . Manifesting .

    Expressing the reality of DE .

    We don't have the tech. , as far as I know . To detect DE . Directly .
     
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  14. river

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    DE ( dark energy ) is a Cosmic Plasma .

    That resides in the Cosmic Web .
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    DM has mass.
    Thus, it both affects gravity and is affected by gravity.
     
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    Gravity , is a freqency , which moves outward . Not inward .
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    All of this is false.
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    How so Dave


    Explain further

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  19. river

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    Fine

    But Why do you think so ?

    What is false about my statement ?
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Because I know how to science.

    Only the part between the capital G and the final period.

    Look, you obviously have an interest in science stuff. Have you considered putting down that UFO book and perhaps picking up a science book?
     
  21. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Actually if gravity moves outwards, it would mean it moves through us.

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  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Gravity waves propagate from the source outward.

    And yes, they do indeed move through us.

    We squash and stretch whenever gravitational waves pass through our region of space. That's what how the LIGO detects gravitational waves - by squashing and stretching.
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Gravity is not a frequency.
    Water in a lake is not a frequency. Waves that propagate through the water can be said to have a frequency.

    Gravity does not move; it is a field. It is everywhere, all the time.
    Gravity waves (changes/disturbances) in the field propagate outward from the source.

    This is all available in books. Just not UFO books.
     

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