But God does, and in your case he allowed your death. The Bible tells us that God killed people all the time when he was not happy. Agreed. If you are part of most organized religions, though, those signs are slammed in your face, over and over - and you are manhandled to the "one true path." By some thing, not others.
Death is as natural as rain. Should we be angry because we will eventually die? Should we be grateful that we were alive? I'm not in a position to argue the Bible. Fear runs deep in the collective conscious. Is it any wonder that it would be reflected in our scriptures? And that might be the problem with most religions--the signs become more important than the destination to which they point. Also, everyone wants to take ownership of God. Wouldn't you agree? I've an understanding that it's not my job to manage the Universe.
If Physics drops a meteor on your apartment, would it be the divine power of Atheism that saves destiny?
No. Again, these questions. contain a whole host of unspoken assumptions in them. Mostly they revolve around 'as opposed to what?' As in: do things happen differently for theists? If physics dropped a meteor on your house, would God save you? If God dropped a meteor on your house, who would save you then? As an atheist, the question makes no sense in the first place. There is no such thing as destiny, no such thing as luck. There is no "saving" from anything. The world is a (relatively) dangerous place, and meteor strikes are way, way down the list - certainly below car accident, cancer and heart attack. This theistic predilection for divine karma seems narcissistic. You stand the same chance as me being the one in the path of that meteor. What is the use in second-guessing whether my Karma is up-to-date enough to warrant being saved?
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?? No. But if a worker carelessly dropped a wrench on your wife's head, and she died - would you be angry? Or would you say "no matter; she would eventually have died anyway! So no harm done." Ah. That is convenient! Well, not quite. The problem is that they tell you what to believe. They tell you the signs, AND the destination, AND what's along the way. I think the issue here is that you believe that it is someone else's job to manage the universe - and you think they are doing a bang-up job.
Would being angry bring her back? There are others with a deeper understanding. We could discuss the literal understanding, or try to look deeper for meaning beyond face value. Belief isn't enough. Knowing is understanding. Of course I do. Would you want the job?
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Pol Pot, Stalin and Hitler These people are God and yet are also atheists?? Bowser, do you attend any form of ''church''? If yes, has it any form of structure regards people within the group having titles? If yes, do they preach, or would you like to say guide? If titles do apply, what are these titles?
Yes, the patio behind my house. It's quite nice, especially this time of year. I am with no formal religious organization.
PLEASE don't answer if this is too personal. I not very good on these religion things, so using the word ''formal'' I take it you may belong to a non-conformist meeting group? I would then take it you may have titles there. If so, what do these titles represent of that person?
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No. Now, can you answer the question? If someone was careless and killed your wife, would you be angry? You just said you were not in a position to do that. Agreed. Unfortunately, most religions preach belief over understanding.
An accident? I think I would be upset because of my loss, of course. We can still make an effort. To start, who is Jesus and what is his point? Perhaps understanding comes from different angles? Not certain how it works for everyone. You can hear the same quote for years and still get wrong until someone comes your way and makes it clear. Agreed?