I hate humans club

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  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    really? so pollyanna



    nah. something is really wrong with this universe. something very, very wrong as there is so suffering and depravity and evil. these things should not be allowed to happen. even more befuddling is the urge for those who want to do harm. where does evil come from? why is it that way?

    things like this should never happen in any universe. that's what disturbs me the most. i would like to think it's all just a bad dream but it's not.
     
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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Says who?

    I stand by post 120

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    PS didn't watch video but even I had I would not change point of view
     
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I turned off the video.
     
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  7. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i say that cat or anyone should not have had to endure being burned alive by a blowtorch. do you disagree? i say that urge to harm, cause pain and damage is wrong. all things natural doesn't mean it's good or even right. you miss that part.

    your stand is empty and meaningless. no different than saying the sky is blue. no fuk.

    it doesn't make everything under the sun that occurs right either.
     
  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I don't disagree BUT YOU seem to be missing the point in that EVERYTHING is natural AND neutral (that's the point) and wrong, good or even right are arbitrary

    Post 120 stands

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  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Arbitrary

    120 stands

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    659396. Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:34 pm

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    I don't think Stephen Fry posed the question correctly. He asks, "What colour was the sky in Ancient Greece?" Then he goes on to correct Joe Brand who said it was blue.

    The simple truth is that irrespective of whether or not the Ancient Greeks had a word for the colour blue it was still blue and NOT bronze.

    In order for the question to make sense he should have asked, "What colour did the ancient greeks use to describe the sky?"

    http://old.qi.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=17774&start=0&sid=0a63307b3ee6c8091298c6ec5dddb330

     
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  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    "club"
    double entendre

    different visualizations
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I agree. Nor should they have to endure being tortured by coyotes for hours before being killed and eaten. Rats should not have to endure being dismembered while still alive by hawks. People should not have to endure being eaten from the inside out by parasites.

    But still, those things happen. And most of them do not come from human actions.
     
  12. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Hell... mayb it is just a bad dream... or mayb monsters do exist an one of 'em created us to suffer this existance. Ether way it is what it is.
    I dont blame "horrible humans"... we are all just victims of circumstance. I dont blame Gods sinse i dont have beliefs in gods. I just accept that i dont have the answrs an prolly never will. I prefer that over tryin to make myself beleive in Bull-Sht. An i can understand the discontent of those who do unjustly blame humans or superstitious thangs like "Gods".
    We are all unique... some will suffer much mor than others an sooner or later all will die.!!!
     
  13. pluto2 Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Humans are very selfish creatures and we treat each other poorly many times.

    That is why many times I get the feeling that the world would have been a better place if some humans never existed.
     
  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Could be true depending on the depth of the deplorability

    But as everyone one has a purpose you could say
    • They allow us to be superior to them
    • Serve as how we should not behave by
    • Showing as a bad example

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  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    queue the philisophical discussion of religous integrity
    Good Vs Evil
    can i be good if there is no bad to compare myself to
     
  16. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Sing it man!

     
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    No
    Good cannot exist in isolation
    You can have a short scale (say ruler style) with a few marks indicating the divisions between good one at one end and bad at the other
    And you can make as many divisions as you wish but might find trouble naming them

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  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    thus "good" is the paraphrase of the eternal narcissist ?
    subjective "good" relys on the self to be superior prior to binary association value.
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Good /bad have always been subjective

    Hence relys on the self to be superior prior to binary association value does not mean anything

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  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    if you read some level 3 & level 4 psychology and some level 2 philosophy you will understand.
     
  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Oooh will I?

    What I understand now
    and I will stick to such

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  22. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    James had a good point, back there. Sharing means caring.

    Also:

    Each of us has both pleasure and pain in our life. Much of our pain is due to our choice of attachments. We can control that choice.

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  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    lol
    no you wont.
    your subconscious bias is way too strong for that.
     

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