gender views cause of incel.

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  1. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    I tried it before, didn't work. Also, dating books say I must never say that I love someone, only that I want to have sex with them, because if I don't I will get friendzoned and viewed as a weak beta male.
    Either way, neither option worked for me. Although the closest I ever came to achieving a real relationship was the sexual road, to be honest.
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    No.

    Love is being willing to satisfy somebody else's needs. Mothers love their children and expect nothing in return. (It's an evolutionary thing.)

    The incel's problem is that for them it's al me, me, me, me. What can YOU give ME? That attitude probably has a lot to do with their inability to get dates.
     
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  5. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    OK. A study of one:

    I'm poor. I'm generally not considered unattractive, but this is seriously mitigated by the fact that my body-type/skeletal frame can best be described as petite, albeit tall (like 6 ft, 28 inch waist, 135 pounds) and I'm ridiculously epileptic and prone to falling down and/or acting strangely with alarming frequency. And yet, I've not known any women who gave two shits about any of that--and (for the resident racist, pluto2) this includes plenty of "pretty white ladies."

    Further, it's not as though as I've made any sort of conscious effort to avoid the vapid idiots who care only about trivialities (I know they exist; after all, there's people like you and pluto2); it's simply that I've somehow managed--quite easily-- to have never come across any.
     
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  7. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    You and I are not so different.

    Your problems with incel thought is actually no different from my problems with female thought.

    When women approach the dating game, its always about ME ME ME. Never caring about the male's feelings, they judge him only by how much income and entertainment he will give her, and what his social status will have affect on her own.
     
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    How poor? Do you have a car and decent home?
    What is your race? As I mentioned earlier, women on dating sites tend to be closet racist, and look for either purebred whites, or well-endowed black males.

    Also, the epiliptic thing may trigger the female nurse reflex, in the same way women gravitate to cripples or injured males.

    Also, you being skinny will only help your odds. Despite Family Guy implying otherwise, chubby dudes usually have a tougher time getting a date.

    And since when did I care about trivialities? I dont think pluto did either, he was making the (somewhat racist) accusation that white women care about trivialities, not that he cared about trivialities himself. Also, you seem like a rude bully, which probably increases your attractiveness to women as well. Has to do with sheltering. Protected by the almighty police state, people can go around insulting people, calling them vapid idiots, and get thunderous applause because noone is willing to risk prison to fight them over it. It's like of like what the whites did to the native americans, Native Americans didn't have a gigantic military presence or immunity to disease, so they could just bully them freely, and the women didn't actually care if the white men were physically weaker, or more cowardly, than the Native Americans, because of the white's sheltering.
     
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  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    "Female thought" isn't as easily definable as incel thought.

    Again, with that attitude, it's no surprise that you can't get a date.
     
  10. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Its not reasonable to expect others to socially connect to one's self if one is a burning train wreck. There is a certain point where obliviousness to one's own interests simply begets a form of sociopathy.
     
  11. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    It's not my attitude its theres.

    When a woman goes for a date she has a long list of demands and expectations. My expectations are simple: Someone to love me, who is not absolutely butt ugly. They can even be chubby, I tried to even date an obese chick once.
     
  12. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Society creates the burning train wrecks then conviently says they have no obligation to socially connect with the same train wreck they were responsible for.

    Not sure what you mean exactly.
     
  13. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    You didn't do it right. Go find a woman that you are NOT sexually attracted to and start a relationship of FRIENDSHIP without an arrogant notion that they want to have sex with you.
     
  14. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    When did I have the arrogant notion they wanted to have sex with me? If they wanted to, I would not be incel.

    Also, been there done that, already have female friends.
     
  15. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    The very act of being the social equivalent of a burning train establishes what society is and is not obligated to.

    If someone willfully enters a burning train, they are probably a burning train themselves, so to speak.
     
  16. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Like I said, I have been bullied, traumatized, molested, and rejected by society, using the same standards that people are complaining about.

    Being rejected for superficial, religious reasons, or because I wasn't good looking, or popular enough, or because I wasn't purebred white or black.

    Or being bullied because I was the youngest in my class.

    In no way does society get to pretend they have the moral ground and accuse me of being the burning train wreck, it is society itself which is the train wreck joke of a society. Everyone is just hedonist narcissists who stares into the void of their IPOD all day at their slave job, posting their latest dinner recipes to pretend they have class, supporting and voting for corrupt polticians every month and every day, while they wear LOVE t-shirts made in foreign asian sweat shops of child labor, as they eat butchered steak and Pork chops that were factory slaughterhoused.
     
  17. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    No one said life is fair. Change your environment, and or, how it affects you. People aren't born "incel" just as people aren't born racist.

    And if I was depressed, yet was really horny and wanted to get laid, I would definitely not be seeking out some supposed "incel" therapist for advice -- the writing is on the wall for that one.
     
  18. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    i plan on saving up money to eventually move, so i suppose that is good advice. Its just he is a nice person, and i dont want to hurt his feelings.
     
  19. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Society doesn't designate you a burning train wreck without you doing it first.
     
  20. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, that's the attitude problem I'm talking about. It's never your fault; it's always their fault.
     
  21. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Wrong.

    You and your therapist should solely be concerned about your feelings.
     
  22. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Because it usually is. I try to be nothing but nice and a good partner, and then they give me bs reasons why they can't be with me.
    Maybe its because of my zodiac. They don't like my zodiac, because they are primitive and prejudice. Or maybe it's my race. Or maybe I'm not their "type".

    In no way is their criterion socially acceptable according to the standards you deem permissible for me to use. Thus, it is called a "double standard".

    You are missing the point. If someone is stuck in a hellhole and loses their mind, what does it matter what the hellhole judges them about it? That's like saying someone went to hell, and the demons don't appreciate their attitude, that they should be more cool about the abuse.
     
  23. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    I guess. I guess I will tell him, cause his therapy doesnt seem to be improving my dating life.
     
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