All Vaccines are contaminated !

i have been theorising this for some years.
like gas & like liquid, water in a state of frozen temperature range acting as independant solids bonded with each other while moving viscousely like a liquid.

 

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So... slush? Like a slush puppy?

 

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yup precisely.
i was pondering the methane lakes of neptune and it occured to me that our knowledge of liquids is quite limited.
as i pondered the harmonic variance effects on water and all its earthly associates(comets etc) i thought, given we do not really comprehend gravitys effect on an atomic level we also do not comprehend liquid dynamics under other worldly forces.
as we see with a collection of (just using an easily mentally constructed image) tiny do-decahedron magnets collected together.
in one form they have strong bonding, in another position they have weak bonding.
yet the bonding its self is not reliant on outside force to determine its absolute properties.
only a physical orientation.
on an attomic level this might wel be possible.
thus a form of dust or water which in its state is a collection of strong or weak bonded individual components.
our perspective of statistical scientific expereince has only recently been opened up with hubble and the back ground radiation fields etc

i hope our understanding will grow exponentially

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It already has.

You might want to read up a little on all the different possible states of water ice.
http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/ice_phases.html

 

Of course we do. Gravity pulls heavier atoms down, just like it always does.

It doesn't really have a profound effect on molecules in the chemical sense.

Well, liquid dynamics are pretty much the same on other worlds as they are here in our labs.

 

We have a far greater understanding of physical chemistry than you described above.

Here's to hoping your understanding of physical chemistry will grow exponentially.

 

lol
such a throw away comment
scientifically meaningless and only shows your sense of need to assert a feeling of dominance and superiority.

of all the things you could have posted. this is your ideal ...

 

Do you assert that humanity (the "we" in billvon's post) does not, in fact, have a far greater understanding of physical chemistry, as he claimed?

 

No, RS. You're posting about how ignorant we are - that's the meaningless part, since - based on your examples - we know a lot more than you think.

 

I feel no such need; humanity's understanding of physical chemistry is simply superior to yours.

You can do one of two things here:
1) Continue to bitch about how little you know about physical chemistry
2) Learn some physical chemistry.

 

Here is what happens in threads like these:

Guy makes a post, like an adult, discussing the dangers of chemicals in vaccines.

Gets responded with a bunch of juvenile posts making fun of water and the titanic, arguing like faerie daemons instead of adults. I couldn't get past page 2, maybe there is actually a serious discussion on page 3 but I lost interest in this thread at this point.

 

And yet you managed to reply. Imagine how thrilled we would be if you participated in a thread that interested you.

 

Perhaps a little, but what was the intention? Did it have a point? Could it have been that it was to guide someone to a point without being too confrontational?

 

Eh, not quite. What happened is that someone made a ridiculous claim, based on a long-debunked "study" that was found not only to be poorly managed, but intentionally fraudulent, and butchers the premise of the thread so poorly that it takes several back and forth conversations just to get the actual point across.

Then, when shown evidence that their premise is wrong, they double down to the point of absurdity (the whole point of the dihydrogen monoxide tangent), which proves the counterpoint that people need to be educated and informed, but need to do their homework and actually take time to inform themselves, instead of simply believing everything they are spoon fed by their pundits of choice (often selected due to confirmation bias).

Was the water tangent a little silly? Certainly - and that was the point. People will happily and readily call for the absolute abolishing of damn near anything if they don't know the name by which it is being addressed. It's like how, a few years ago, a petition was circulated calling for the end of Women's Suffrage - people flocked to sign it, saying it's terrible how much women are suffering and how "women's suffrage needs to end"... and none of them had a fucking clue that what they were signing was calling for the end of a woman's right to VOTE. They saw a crowd going in a direction, and like good little sheep, they followed it without knowing what or why.

The response to River's post was not a "bunch of juvenile posts making fun of water and the titanic", nor was it "arguing like faerie daemons" - they were, in fact, quite rational responses with the purpose of guiding someone to the logical conclusion of available evidence, rather than simply telling them they are wrong.

If, however, you would prefer we simply said "No, you are wrong" and left it at that... well, I think you may be in the wrong place for that.

 

I did inadvertently come across this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/autism-chelation-therapy-unproven-and-dangerous-1.4803423

So, I guess it qualifies as a conspiracy. (Don't know if it has already been mentioned.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal_controversy

Just to stay on topic with the original thread title itself.

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My vaccine argument is this. I went to the website, http://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vaccine-ingredients#active ingredients, showing the ingredients.

But how can we believe they are telling the truth? We have no reason to trust the governement. What have they ever done to earn our trust? All they ever did is kill Native Americans. And then make Agent Orange and do secret government testing on Human Beings! Who knows what other stuff they are up to that is no good. For all we know, they are putting weird things in vaccines they are not telling us about.

For example, we can't even trust the labels of our food. The ingredients often say "Natural flavor". But "Natural flavor" means often, articifical and toxic flavor! If we cannot trust the labels of our food what can we trust?


I think the Titanic, is actually a good metaphor! Look what happened to those who blindly trusted the authority, who blindly followed the captain of the ship!

 

And what is wrong with that?

A moment's thought should make it obvious that preparing vaccines that are stable enough for use is quite complicated and will require a number of ingredients to be present to make them safe and effective.

What, in the link you quote, indicates a hidden risk in vaccines, in your opinion?

N.B. This link is from Oxford University, so will be independent of government and the pharmaceutical industry.

 

Still, it would be a better to have a lab of my own, rather than relying on the faith in others.

 

How about answering the two questions I asked you?

 

There is nothing to discuss. You have faith that the studies published on the internet are true. I have my doubts.