"Atheism has a Richard Dawkins problem"

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  1. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Google disagrees.
     
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  3. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Or on the other foot, if there's no group, how can talk of it progressing, etc?

    Unless of course you want to praise it, apparently.
     
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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Then you are going to stop attempting. Progress.
    "Atheism", btw, the term that confuses you, was in a way born of fairy dust - if angels are a kind of fairy: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-history-of-the-definition-of-atheism

    So does your Ouija board, if you ask it properly.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    There is no organizational structure in atheism. There are, however, atheist organizations.
     
  8. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Yet for some funny reason, influential persons like Dawkins appear to give so more than just that.
     
  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Influential? Dawkins? I've never read a word of his.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's like civil rights, which can progress as a result of individuals changing their minds.
    I praise it as the absence of faith based atrocities. It doesn't automatically make atheists morally superior or involnerable to other forms of human frailties.
     
  11. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    If the toilet bowls don't have 6 month old shit stains, atheism does have organizational structure.
    https://www.atheists.org/convention2018/
     
  12. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Then, as I suspect, you didn't read the OP.
     
  13. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    The OP is about Dawkins. Is there anything by Dawkins in it?
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Not all atheists subscribe to that organization. But to the extent that we do, it's fair game.
     
  15. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Like a member of the Silent Brotherhood changing their value affiliation to the Comancheroes?
    Or does the mere changing of minds have to be coordinated with specific values in specific ways to grant progress?

    Then if its open to non-faith based atrocities or frailties, your praise is arbitrary.
     
  16. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Or is the OP about things by Dawkins?
    Or is this simply more of your standard douchebaggery and desperation to clutch straws?
    (And you wonder why you are the subject of insult ....)
     
  17. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Not all atheists have to subscribe to it for it to have sufficient organizational structure to clean shit off porcelain.
     
  18. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't matter if it's about Bilbo Baggins. The point is that Richard Dawkins has had no influence on me.
    You really could stand to drop the childish name-calling. It reflects more on you than it does on me.
     
  19. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    And you, in turn, have no influence in the world of atheism.

    It is better to command respect rather than demand it.
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure what that means exactly, but if you can criticize American Atheists more than they criticize themselves, you are more than welcome.
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed. So why not try?
     
  22. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    It means somebody cleans shit off porcelain and somebody else speaks in a microphone and these two different tasks aren't determined by a rotating roster.
     
  23. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    There is no "world of atheism" but the fact that I have no influence over other atheists makes my point, not yours.
    With your childish behaviour, you're doing neither.
     

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