So you're the only one who knows what the thread is really, really, really about. Or you're just evading because you don't have any evidence.
Tiresome. They constantly talk about God, they apply logic to understanding God, they waffle waffle and waffle under the illusion that their prattle somehow establishes their non existent God...it does not the theist talks fantasy unable to point to anything that remotely hints that their fantasy is anything more than ...well fantasy. Grow up you ding bats...there is no substance to your fantasy ..never has been and never will...yet they continue to waffle waffle waffle...still no God. More waffle still no God. But look at our good book they say...sure the one that is made up, promotes slavery and demands the killing of lawn mowing neighbours...theist you are a joke please go away get some Sunlight and reason and stop pratling about stuff you have made up...there is no God, there never has been a God and all your talk and wishful thinking will not bring forth a God. Please keep your delusional bullshit to yourselves or share it with a child molesting priest if you must but really put up or shut up and take lessons in honesty and rational and critical thinking. Take your God nonsense and stick it in your nose. Put up or shut up put up to grow up all your God stories are lies which no one with an once of sense believes in the slightest. Theists please go back to the bronze age and never come back. Alex
I would say about maybe 75% of participants so far have a pretty reasonable idea what the thread is about. So far, you are in the 25%
If you are amongst those 25% who can't understand the OP, you can't understand who is obliged to bring something here.
If you're claiming that God is "obvious", like an elephant, there shouldn't be any need to explain to you what part of an elephant we want to see. Any part will do. Show one.
Calm down. Take a deep breath, and exhale slowly, and evenly. We'll get you through this man. I fear he has had a bit too much pop. If that is the case we'll most likely get a bag of apologies when he sobers up. LOL! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Are you accustomed to sticking things up your nose? Just asking. I knew it, Isaac Newton is a dumb-as. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Not! Theists? Put those suitcases down. The bronze age is unhygienic, and, it does not have the internet. I implore you. Don't do it! Jan.
Once again, Bowser tried the "obvious" approach in the other thread. On account of the resultant whining, he started this thread. We get it that you are whining, but you are whining in the wrong thread. Seriously, if you took this whining to the other thread, nothing would be out of place.
It sounds like you're cracking up. Chill man. I find your brand of atheism refreshing. Personally, I think every professed atheist shares something with you. Jan.
And the answer is still that if something is "obvious", you shouldn't need a road map. Show us the elephant's leg. Show us his trunk. Show us his tusk. (Those are examples: a leg, a tusk, an ear.) If you can't do that, you have no basis to call the elephant "obvious".
Once again. Wrong thread. We get it that you have this wonderful, original argument about how God doesn't exist. Its just not relevant to the OP. Seriously, just try to read some of the replies of the majority who actually understand what is being discussed here.
I'm not making an argument about whether or not God esists. I'm asking you for evidence. I asked specifically for a leg, a trunk, a tusk. The OP asks, "What is it that you need to prove God's existence? Would it be something physical, solid--something you can hold in your hand?" I'm answering, "Yes. That would do it." If you think the OP is asking something else, please explain yourself.
So the next series of questions might be... Did Bowser offer something physical in the previous thread? Was it a pile of bricks? Were people satisfied with that as evidence of God? Did much whining ensue?
He offered "everything" physical. That isn't very helpful. Saying that everything is evidence of God is the same as saying that everything is evidence of unicorns or leprechauns. We need something that specifically ties something to this "God" concept. A trunk would specifically indicate an elephant. A large, flat ear would specifically indicate an elephant. So show us something that specifically indicates "God" and not unicorn or leprechaun.
I think you have to decide whether you actually want to engage in discussion or just enthusiastically fist pump for team atheism.
That applies to you too. SSB made a point. The same point I'm making, in fact. Why won't you address it? "Everything is evidence of God" is equivalent to "everything is evidence of leprechauns". How is this not so?
What Bowser, Jan and Musika are not saying is that the reason they believe the answers point toward God - and not to some other entity - is because they have faith. Which is fine, in-and-of-itself. I'm not here to rattle anybody's personal faith. It's just that it's not really a topic of discussion. "I have faith that God is the cause for everything." Full stop. That can't be defended - nor does it need to be. Unless it is brought out and put on the table for discussion. At which point "because I believe it to be so" is insufficient.
That's very helpful. You have everything. What more do you want? I take it you're still atheist. Too bad. Then go read your scripture. "The fool says in his heart, there is no God". You need to get passed that first. Jan.
