Jesus Failed

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Ivor Bigun, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Some people are good Christians and don't even know it.
     
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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Another win?

    I don't think so

    Morals existed long before Mr Invisible was conjured up

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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Yet "Mr. Invisible" played a larger role in Western culture than any other model.
     
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  7. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    No, the personal take each person had on "Mr. Invisible" did. Non-existent beings have a lower impact that even Facebook would accept.
     
  8. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    True.
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Unfortunately for you He isn't invisible. Have a holiday in Africa with a tribe of cannibals(try their moral code for size), or Egypt with its oh so rich history.
     
  10. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    But "Mr. Invisible" is reflected in our culture whether we go to church or not, whether you accept him or not. You can't escape him. Many people's sense of right and wrong are a derivative passed down to them. You're a Christian by default.
     
  11. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    It is true. We can't ignore our history and disregard its impact on our psyche.
     
  12. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    The bible mentions some interesting philosophies... or truths. I vote Truth.

    Applicable to Jews:

    Jeremiah 31:33

    Everyone else:

    Hebrews 10:16
     
  13. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I apologize for not having the motivation to pull out my bible and look those up. Maybe you can quote them here and simplify my life today so I can respond properly.

    My point is that most people are good, a product of their social environment, which was (in our culture) infused with Christian principles. It's been diluted and morphed over the years, but I believe people still strive to be good people. The way they express that desire has changed.
     
  14. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I look around, and people don't strive to be good people only a chump would think otherwise.
     
  15. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Crap. Most people are just borderline ethical and will dive over the line blythely.

    And I have no religion, never had, never will. Your pathetic and desperate projection is utterly absurd.
     
  16. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    You cherry pick history. That's lame.
     
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    To bad jc was / is probably a amalgamation of any number of sandel wearing prophets wandered around the place

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  18. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    And the mash-up known as the New Testament shows that in the contradictory statements contained within.
     
  19. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Wouldn't that be something if he was/is? Considering his influence over time, wouldn't that be something?
     
  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    No cherry picking necessary. The fact we are discussing it now shows it to be true, thousands of years later.
     
  21. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I can't speak for all.
     
  22. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    As far as I understand bible "history" and standard history and the records of population available from the time there is no record of jc existence

    Given the time frame I would be surprised even some records still exist

    Thought bubble - who would Mary put as the father of jc? She has two options, god or Joseph

    If the birth record was found and dad was recorded as god case closed. If Joseph I doubt they would be the only married couple with the names of Joseph and Mary

    And I suspect given the movement of the birthdate of jc, around the calendar, until the church decided to steal a very active pagan celebratory day, 25th December, even the year would be suspect

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  23. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    What line would you like to define? And from where did you get your stick?
     

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