Are Dreams a Window to the Subconscious Mind?

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  1. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    It's been said that the subconscious mind speaks to us in our dreams, and to some degree I do believe that to be true. I can see symbolism in some of my dreams but not all of them. Some just seem like silly plays of fantasy. Is this an outdated theory or is it still relevant today.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Interpretation_of_Dreams

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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Who can say what is going on any comment must be only speculative.

    If my subconscious is trying to talk to me via dreams it needs to talk sense...my dreams are strange they dont have familar scenery for example.
    How does the brain generate stuff that is so new or different...maybe I am picking up eps signals...if so there are some strange places and events out there...best answer I dont know and any guess is as good as the next...useless.
    Alex
     
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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I have dreams that I can associate with real life issues, others just seem unusual. The other night I dreamed I was on Mars, walking through a village of martians, thinking I needed to take pictures to send back to my wife.

    I don't have nightmares though.
     
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  7. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Dreams are just random thoughts in the subconscious mind that the conscious mind tries to make orderly. Nothing special about them.
     
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  8. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I once read that dreams were a training ground for real life situations, a remnant from a time when men had to contend with nature.
     
  9. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    And did the author provide proof for that?
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    “To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there's the rub, for in that sleep of death what dreams may come when we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause."
    and
    "Brain activity may continue for more than 10 minutes after the body appears to have died, according to a new study."(last March)
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...-death-after-eeg-study-research-a7620131.html

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    That being "said":
    CW has it that dreams are the mind's way of transferring short term to long term memories.
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    Anecdotal: This has happened to me on several occasions.

    And:
    Who among us has not solved perplexing problems in our dreams and applied those solutions during wakefulness?
     
  11. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    I've always assumed that dreams are just the mind taking out the garbage. Deciding what to keep and what to throw away.

    I wish it would stop throwing out where I put my keys - I usually need that info in the morning.
     
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  12. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    It's been years since I read that. I can't remember the source, but I suspect it was nothing more than a theory, though an interesting one.
     
  13. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I make a habit of placing my keys in the same spot every night, but I have misplaced my wallet on several occasions. The mind has a mechanism that discards useless information, and sometimes that mechanism operates when it shouldn't.
     
  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    According to more than one valued poet - and a really good poet is probably as reliable as any other source of analysis in this matter - "In Dreams Begin Responsibilities"

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/william-butler-yeats
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Dreams_Begin_Responsibilities
    Some researcher mentioned in an interview that all or almost all accomplished and successful people at some time in their lives dreamed recurrently of failure. Apparently this is backed by considerable research in specific situations, e.g.: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053810014000968
     
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  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    The problem is that you and your brain disagree about what is important.
     
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  16. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    From Gawdzilla Sama Post 4
    The above is likely to be correct or close to the right idea.

    I remember reading a similar explanation from what I considered a reliable source at the time.

    BTW: REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep seems to be a critical necessity.

    I remember reading about experiments in which folks were woken when REM started. The subjects showed symptoms similar to those displayed by folks who were seriously sleep deprived.​
     
  17. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Yet they can be so linear. Not necessarily logical but a storyboard nonetheless.
     
  18. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Seems dreams are just the working out of subconscious cues stimulated during the day. During wakefulness we often move from one thing to another without any reflection on the genesis of thoughts and ideas. So there seems to be unfinished subconscious business that just needs to run its course. Burning off the subconscious baggage that would lead to hallucinations under extreme sleep deprivation.
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Did you here about the fella who dreamed he was in a marshmellow factory and when he woke half his pillow was missing.
    Alex
     
  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I have, and I thought it was funny.
     
  21. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I wasn't being sarcastic. I have seen that one and thought it funny when read it. The one I read was: "I had a dream last night that I was eating a marshmallow. When I woke up my pillow was gone."

    Here's one for you: "Sex in the morning is great, unless you're in prison."
     
  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I did not think you were being such.
    Alex
     
  23. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Just read some Shakespeare.
     

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