UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

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  1. paddoboy

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    Oh the irony of it all!

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    Tell me MR, why do you continue to refuse to answer the questions put to you...from both Mick and myself.

    Again
    OK how many UFO sites have you visited? How many abductees have you personally quizzed? If those two questions are too difficult to answer honestly, then tell me, How long will these visiting Aliens continue to flitter in and flitter out again without making themselves officially recognised? Are they preparing the way to destroy us? or are they just going to keep medically probing for whatever reason?
     
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  3. Michael 345

    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Last time E for Effort
    Now F for Fail

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    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Give a bit more time
    The gears in the brain go round and round
    Round and Round
    Round and Round

    But this is a clown car
    No drive shaft
    Only pedel power

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  7. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    As usual, Magical Realist, you have picked a dubious case to parade here. And now you're making the usual excuses to try to preserve some vestige of credibility for it.

    Your own research, indiscriminate as it is, so often turns out to be shoddy.
     
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  8. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Where is your critical analysis of this?

    And what is compelling about it, exactly?

    It seems there was an unusual cloud formation at the airport. So what?
     
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  9. Magical Realist

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    I have no criticism for the compelling accounts I choose to post here. I've already gone over this with you. The video speaks entirely for itself. And no..a cloud is not a sharply defined disc that suddenly shoots up into the sky leaving a hole in the cloud layer. As usual you are cherry-picking out the parts of the account that don't fit with your conclusion. That's called confirmation bias. Remember?
     
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  10. Magical Realist

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    Tip: bitching about an account of a ufo sighting or the poster of such doesn't equate to debunking. You'll have to do better than that.
     
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  11. Michael 345

    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Two pilots reported it. Didn't you listen to the radio traffic?
    All of the waiting passengers and people with them to see them off were either
    • to terrified to take photos or
    • make statements or
    • were bathed with invisible amnesia rays
    Critical enuf?

    Geeze you can be such a skeptic

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  12. Magical Realist

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  13. Michael 345

    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    1987-Waterbury, Connecticut 1987- Randy Etting

    It occurred to me looking at the photo in post #284 it looks like a series of motorcycle headlights on ring road exit ramp

    Anybody with a daylight pic of the location?

    That is one on the ground looking up at overpass structure

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  14. Magical Realist

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    Well, we can either discuss the topic of ufos intelligently like mature adults or you can be ignored for playing juvenile trollish games. The choice is your's.
     
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  15. James R

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    I didn't ask your for criticism. I know you will have none of that. I asked you for critical analysis, i.e. an appraisal based on a careful and reasonable analysis, wherein you look at the matter from all sides.

    What video? There's no photograph of this UFO, no video taken at the time. All the footage in the video you posted is generic stuff. I do note, however, that the identifiable alien spaceships we see in the video have nothing to do with the O'Hare incident. Your video is constructed specifically to sensationalise this "sighting".

    If that happened. How many witnesses even reported that?

    I haven't even started on the "account". Neither have you, of course.

    I was just having a laugh at how you backed off on that one and started making excuses. Exactly the same report, repeated after an interval of 22 years. LOL! How gullible you are, and to hat great lengths you will go to defend your faith!
     
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  16. Magical Realist

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    No..I'm not doing some pretentious critical analysis from both sides for a well-vetted and compelling account that I believe happened and have no problem with and so chose to post in the first place. It does the whole pros and cons thing itself. Did you even watch it all?

    LOL! Kinda answered your own question there didn't ya?

    The video is giving artist renditions of the sighting for clarity purposes. That's one of the neat things you can do with video. It's not sensationalizing anything.

    Yeah...it happened. And several witnesses reported it. Read the Tribune article I posted.

    Bullshit you aren't. You are already suggesting the shooting up into the clouds didn't happen,. That's what you do. You edit the account to fit with your "not a ufo" assumption, because somehow you just know ufos don't exist.

    LOL! All I did was quote the article's author's own conclusion that the Waterbury ufo incident of 1987 was genuine. That's the only account I ever posted about. A hoaxed account 22 years later has nothing to do with it and doesn't detract from it in the least. Can you not grasp this simple point?
     
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  17. Michael 345

    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Wooooh there Trigger. Don't go galloping off in a huff

    A hoaxed account 22 years later - which resurrects the same report language - has nothing to do with it

    Guess the hoaxer thought they got away with it 22 years ago let's run it again

    Would it be to much to ask for the newest version to be real and the old one to be the hoax?

    Glad you brought that up (no pun intended). Have you concocted a explanation for

    ...... climbed from 1,700 to 3,500 feet .......in a couple of seconds.......no g-forces.....

    equates to about 988 klm per hour?

    Just a reminder you trotted this one out as your very best with impeccable credentials

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  18. James R

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    In other words, you switched off your brain from the start. As usual.

    I'm curious. Is that video your idea of a balanced treatment of the incident?

    Not all of it. That's 6 minutes of my time I'd never get back. I watched some of it. It got a bit repetitive.

    Artist renditions for clarity purposes, eh? Just the facts, Ma'am.

    It's made for the credulous, and you got sucked right in.

    So a few people saw something they couldn't explain in the clouds. Big deal. There was no alien spaceship caught on radar above this very busy airport. Air traffic control apparently noticed nothing. Thousands of other passengers, flight crew, and airport staff noticed nothing unusual. This was 2006, but nobody had a camera and cared enough to take a photo.

    All this suggests that this thing is just cheap sensationalism.

    Who knows? The available evidence is just too thin to know. And it's not as if you know what happened. You're just the cheer squad.

    We've been through this before. Lots of people see things they can't identify in the sky. Well, not lots, proportionally speaking, but some. My problem is not with that. It's with the whole "Aliens are visiting earth" thing, because there's a total of zero evidence of that. (Now we wait for you to claim that maybe it's time travellers, or interdimensional beings, or ghosts, rather than aliens.)

    If you think a repeat of the same account 22 years later is irrelevant, I think it's you who needs to start grasping simple points.
     
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  19. Magical Realist

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    No..I switched on my brain by tracking down and studying and posting a well-vetted and compelling ufo encounter.

    Balanced in what way? That it raises doubts about it and leaves it all hanging in the air, pun intended? I don't expect that sort of "balance" from news reports. Either it happened or it didn't. Just tell me what happened and what the eyewitnesses saw. There is no in-between state of "could be either way".


    It would help your credibility if you actually see the whole video before whining about it.


    It's made for anyone who wants to know what happened that day.

    Right..around 12 eyewitnesses to a disc hovering low over the airport and then shooting at an angle into the cloud layer leaving a blue sky hole in it. Just that. Nothing exciting here.

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    I've got 12 eyewitnesses attesting to what happened. How many more do YOU need?


    Right..we know flying saucers exist, we just don't know where they're from. Don't play the "not extraterrestrials" copout again.

    It has nothing to do with it. An event has happened in 1987 no matter who hoaxes it 22 years later. The future doesn't change the past.
     
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  21. Gawdzilla Sama

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    Still been 70 years with no evidence.
     
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  22. paddoboy

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    translation: I am unable to/refuse to answer the questions as neither am I an official researcher and nor have I undertaken any independent research, as opposed to my preferred option of reading and automatically accepting second hand and third hand say so's from gullible people who believe likewise.
     
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  23. river

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    The thing is what happened at O'Hare Airport really did happen .

    The thing is , is that the people who witnessed the UFO were hushed up . Plain and simple .
     
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