What qualifies as science?

Discussion in 'General Science & Technology' started by Jozen-Bo, Apr 25, 2017.

  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It's science if you report your results conscientiously and other people can reproduce your study with similar results.

    Like the guys who weighed dying and dead people to see if the departing soul had mass.

    It's common to get "negative" results, in doing the best and most rigorous of studies.
     
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  3. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    So let's see.

    1) You were very drunk
    2) There were no other witnesses
    3) You have accidentally deleted the recording.
    4) All you saw - a week alter - was a "transparent girl".

    And for some reason your first thought is it was a ghost. Most people would be thinking of explanations in terms of reflections.

    This is a classic example of the sort of unreproducible anecdote that gives the topic a bad name.
     
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  5. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    I was drunk, not the camera.

    It was around 3am, it was a bush road (no people, no reflections)

    For me to rule anything out, it would have been cross data from the memory, but there was nothing on the hard drive that could explain that.

    I showed a few people before I accidentally deleted the footage.

    Footage would only be useful for my own personal use anyway.
    Even if I showed you the video would you really believe that I didn't tamper with it?

    It was the only ghost footage I could actually believe because I'm the one who shot it. I question everything I see on the internet, no matter how convincing it is.

    The only way you'll ever believe is if you have a similar experience. Then you'll be in the same boat.
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Fine, but my point is this is not doing science, that's all.
     
  8. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    No, it's art
     
  9. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    And that is fine.
     
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    On the road to my cousin's farm, there's a haunted church. We usually go out there in broad daylight but one time we went at dusk and I saw the ghost for the first time. It was obviously the reflection of our headlights in the windows (and possibly mirrors), moving because we were moving. I didn't even associate it with the "ghost" until later.
     
  11. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I think I have read that this is very common, especially with cameras, which seem to pick up reflections that have gone unnoticed to the naked eye. People who want to see ghosts see ghosts, but you or I would assume the more mundane explanation. Life is a bit duller when you are rational, perhaps.
     
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  12. river

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    What qualifies as science is investigation into the unknown . Which is what science has been doing for centuries . And thousands of yrs.

    Which includes everything that is unexplained .
     
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    In a sense you are correct, we have been studying universal patterns since the beginning. But except of assigning supernatural properties to the unexplainable events, such as in the bible, science has created a structural method of analysis of these phenomena.

    Once we had a body of observations, we were able to draw conclusions about the physical, not supernatural, nature of these patterns.

    That was the birth of the physical sciences, replacing the supernatural interpretations of the initial first impresssions
    Thor was replaced by energetically interacting clouds, which build electrical positive charges, which then release these electric chrges to the negatively charged "ground" of earth, in the form of "lightning", accompanied by a thunderous sound.

    Once we knew the physical science, it replaced the supernatural science which had ruled our knowledge for millennia and Thor was put to rest.
     
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  14. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    Many people are so turned off by death that they have to think up an alternative. I have a highly imaginative brain, so regularly I'll glance at my letterbox or a small tree etc and think a person is standing there. I jump out of my skin every time and it happens at least a couple times a day. So maybe they're hallucinating half the time as well. Unlike the patients who die during an operation, who see all kinds of things, are likely tripping on lack of oxygen.
    I have my own personal reasons to believe what I believe and hopefully I'll have an answer one day.

    It'll probably be a waste of time but I have found an experiment that would be simple enough to do and the results reproducible. EVP.
     
  15. river

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    EVP is ....
     
  16. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    Electronic voice phenomenon
     
  17. river

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    Thanks

    From your post# 231 , what would be your experiment ?
     
  18. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    Go somewhere quiet on the long wave, ask questions, write down answers and of course record everything. Location imo is not important, as energy is in all places at all times. Any results would then have to be sieved and anything conclusive sieved again. In the end, I wouldn't label it as evidence but it would be a fun experiment.
     
  19. river

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    Thats not an experiment .

    All though it would be interesting .

    The type of wave does matter .
     
  20. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    Of course it is, it's a social experiment with the dead

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  21. river

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    Well what wave are the dead on ?
     
  22. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    If it's all woo it won't matter, I should be able to get a result on any wave. I want a result though, maybe I'll do a YouTube video and post the link here
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    It is Woo Woo and you won't get any result

    And already you have expanded your experiment to record the voices of the dead into a video. A video of what?

    Best of luck

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