Yes, that is a baseless assumption, which led you to your baseless conclusion that there is proof of a God. If someone has faith in a God that is fine and I cannot prove that you would be wrong in your belief. But the 'logic' you put out was clearly flawed and in no way what so ever does it prove there is a God.
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If we assume that - particles obey the motions of the waving tail of a cosmic unicorn then it follows that - a cosmic unicorn exists. If we assume that - particles are pixie dist then it follows that - Tinkerbell is God. These are equally valid as the OP.
It seems that your argument boils down to: There is order to the universe therefore there must be a God. The problem is that there is no evidence that there needs to be a God, or guiding hand, for this order.
I could take all of opinions of people here and I have a good understanding of your disagreement. I take it as the very probable response of the scientific community. Actually I didn't expect something different. Just curious about the criticism I could obtain. Thanks for that.
In quantum field theory, electric and magnetic forces are carried by "messenger particles" (photons), and are not action at a distance. Why can't this "universe supra-computer" that runs the physical laws of the universe just be ... the universe? What makes you think something extra is required? Why do you think there needs to be an "outside" input? This is called the argument from design. The same argument was assumed to hold in order to account for the diversity and complexity of life on Earth - right up until Charles Darwin came along with the idea of evolution by natural selection. Just because something looks designed, it doesn't mean that thing has a Creator behind it. What if there are many universes, all with different values of the physical constants, and we just happen to be in one that has the particular values we observe?
Yes, my examples are more fanciful than yours but note the salient similarities: 1] Pixie dust, cosmic unicorns and computers are all human inventions. It would be an astonishing coincidence if the universe were made of something that was not invented for another 14 billion years. 2] They are all truisms. If we assume the thing that makes them true is true, then the thing must needs be true. Finally, I challenge your invocation of the term 'evidence'. I think what you have is an analogy. The Earth is like a spinning top. That is not evidence that the Earth is a spinning top.
Physical laws don't run the universe. They are man-made descriptions of physical behavior. Your argument is a classic argument from ignorance, a logical fallacy. You can't conceive how it works, so you invent a universal supra-computer to explain it, while failing to explain the existence of a universal supra-computer.
I did not interpret the OP as failing to understand. I interpreted as seeing a system that has entities (particles) and rules of behavior (forces) and making the assumption that these things cannot act/interact without doing so within a framework to contain it and an engine to drive it. I guess that's the same thing as what you said. (Then again, I didn't make the leap right away that the OP is probably an ID proponent looking for fuel.)
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