The last gasp of a dying breed. We can ignore them and win. We will never change their minds. Because they choose what "facts" to believe based on what they want to believe.
Who's not aware? Do you know of anyone ignorant that slavery as a historical fact? Outside of a few quacks we all agree that there was a holocaust. We know women have hurdles with equal pay, maternity leave, reproductive rights etc. The only place and I mean the only place that is relevant is in terms of policy, political correctness and identity politics do not address nor advise nor helps form public policy. Everyone should hang out at congress yelling slurs at the lawmakers, I highly advise it. Never read Infinite Jest? Yes drunks do show up to AA meetings from time to time with beer in hand, they don't get thrown out either, brother's in arms and all that.
Last gasps? They now control every part of the federal government! What fucking reality do you live in???
I know it's hard to believe, but this isn't a permanent trend. As Republicans get more desperate for votes, they get more radical, and it happened to work this time due to a weak Democratic candidate and Russia's help. But it should be obvious by now they can't govern that way. They will appear to be the most powerful just before the fall.
It is unsurprising to me that you can see no parallels between the two cases. To you. a safe space where people who need some quiet is a political football, a hated aspect of the other team, intended for weaklings and failures. A quiet space in a library, well - why that's just common sense! Some people need quiet to be able to work effectively. Nothing wrong with that. I hope you can one day see past your prejudices.
No Spider. The racists were already there. He didn't create them, he is the expression of the rejection of political correctness which much of his base found 'refreshing'. They were there all along, they were there when Obama was in office. Don't you remember all of the racist posters and language being used during Obama's presidency? Same folk, they weren't in the closet.
LOL, no you and yours, and I have laid out the argument repeatedly now how your ilk helped elect trump, but by all means show how I'm at fault for the rise of Trump? Oh boy someday in the future they will all be dead... so? What about NOW? Heck what about in 2020? I'm laying down all these arguments now so that hopefully we don't run a horrible candidate again, using a bonehead strategy, and losing to a fucking pig bore!
He didn't create them, but he did make them bold enough to commit racist attacks. Now right wing terrorism incidents outnumber Islamic terrorism.
A 'safe space' is described by university students Osman: A place where usually people who are marginalized to some degree can come together and communicate and dialogue and unpack their experiences. Nick Webb: Sometimes I feel the white population can be left out of these conversations. … You can’t build and create equality without having everyone involved in the conversation. Crutcher: When I wake up, I think about the fact that I’m black, I have to think about my hair, I have to think about my edges, I have to think about how I look … whether or not I look too this or too that, and that’s something that I get tired of doing sometimes. And so it makes me feel good to know if I can go somewhere and just be me without having to worry about changing who I am — that’s a safe space. Roquel Crutcher: Recently, braids are a thing, and that to me is cultural appropriation because I spent my entire life wanting to look like a white person, basically, and then the one moment where I do decide that I actually like the way that I look, it was kind of taken away from me. It’s just kind of hurtful, because the reason we wear braids is completely different from the reason white women wear braids, and it just takes away from the culture and from the fact that sometimes cultures don’t have a choice. Cheema: You’re trying to create an environment which promotes people to feel comfortable enough to talk about things that typically won’t be spoken about … where people can speak up, where they feel like nothing that’s going to be said is going to be taken out and used against them. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/st...-and-trigger-warnings/?utm_term=.d183af2e16b6 Here's the problem. You can have a Jewish 'safe space', a female safe space, a black female safe space but you cannot have a space where all of these people dialogue with white men and you think this is a recipe for cultural understanding? Crutcher's safe space amounts to nothing more than how most people feel when they stay home but she should really see a therapist because of how she feels about herself being a black woman. Its her personal issue, its not a social justice issue, no one can legislate around it and no one outside of her can fix it. Nick Webb is no different than the white separatist who only feels safe in all white areas. Cheema thinks that everyone talking to people who are just like them is somehow socially relevant or political. Its not. Its just another frigging group therapy session and that's just what's wrong with it, it mistakes personal emotional healing with societies ills. It turns a certain section of the Left into emotionally fragile 'triggered' idiots. Not 'warriors', not people concerned with social justice, just a bunch of emotionally stunted, entitled young adults. Do you think a black person who forced him or herself through a crowd of angry racists to sit in a classroom had any time at all for such nonsense? Do you think the guy sitting at the counter in an 'reserved for whites only' restaurant would drop one tear for these crybabies? Nah. Do you think the early suffragettes 'identify'? Probably not. They lived in the real world where it wasn't nice and friendly but you grabbed your banner and fought for SPECIFIC rights. There wasn't this abstract threat that comes from being a member of a marginalized group that actually has earned rights their forefathers wouldn't have dreamt of. And what did they fight that good fight for? Hiding out in a 'safe space' at university. Do you think these black men needed a safe space? Edwin C. J. Howard (Medicine), George L. Ruffin (Law), Robert T. Freeman (Dental) all in 1869. Ruffin and Freeman were the first blacks awarded their respective degrees in the country. The first Harvard College A.B. was awarded to Richard T. Greener in 1870. He went on to become a philosophy professor, law school dean and foreign diplomat. How did they all manage without their blankey and 'safe sessions' I wonder! You are free to call me a racist which I'm not but I understand that's how you dismiss people in these types of conversations.
And how did so-called intellectuals manage without Gestapo-like librarians shushing people in libraries? Maybe they're simply unable to think with any noise at all. I wondered how they managed in the real noisy world? (BTW I didn't call you a racist. Are you thinking of someone else, or just feeling a bit guilty about your position?)
You can and I do. A safe space is a temporary non-judgemental situation where people can speak frankly about controversial issues without fear of conflict. This makes it exactly the opposite of what you think it is.
? Social media are hardly the problem. The Trump voters aren't generating their own agitprop - they're consumers. They all have the same problem - they don't carefully consider the actual sources of Trump's votes, they don't add properly, and they make errors of inference accordingly. If you read them, you'll find the bits and pieces: Trump got a serious increase in turnout advantage concentrated in the critical states (exactly the States in which lower black vote most affected Clinton, especially), a lot of the Trump increase was in "unaffiliated" young voters with no voting history, they assume the bad memory effect of past votes has no seriously predominant Trump bias, and so forth. When they show up, and they get to vote, and they get their votes counted. They don't always show up. That's the big one. They don't always get to vote. They don't always get their votes counted. Those are critical in certain circumstances, especially electoral college squeakers. A black voter in the US is nine times as likely to have their ballot rejected as "spoiled", not counted, as a white voter. Start there. Start off, sure - but this is thirty years later, when that same simple argument has been repeated to those same simple bigots hundreds of times. It didn't work, it isn't working. Why repeat what has never worked? Plus, according to you, they've been running into those arguments on sjw youtube videos and facebook posts so often the inundation has shifted their entire political viewpoint - from normally liberal to Trump voter, in sheer frustration with all the sjw stuff. Let's try, first, getting the noise and repetition of bullshit out of the way. No more shit-for-brains yak about Trump voters having changed their normally liberal votes because of all the "sjw" stuff that has taken over their internet experience and filled their media everywhere they go. No more blaming a Trump vote on whatever Clinton did or didn't do. They voted for Trump, remember. They have the internet experience and media preferences and Clinton "knowledge" of Trump voters, people who have been swallowing Fox feed and Limbaugh swill and basically nothing else for dinner their entire adult political lives. Then, we encourage the lost and confused to think a bit for themselves. Out my window, at the same time I read yet another demand for solutions presented as an argument against the existence of problems, were two downy woodpeckers on the suet feeder. Both were hanging on to the suet feeder in good woodpecker position. One of them was working bits of suet off the block, the other was cheeping and begging to be provided with suet. Life is full of such perfect moments.
Guilt? For what? The next time anyone hears me advocate for the extermination, repression, oppression or disenfranchisement of any group they are free to call me whatever they like. I probably mistook you for someone else but I haven't checked yet. I don't know I mostly wonder what people did before they created ipods. Which reminds me, anyone playing music in a library in a world full of ipods should be thrown out and anyone who of course who speaks loudly, unless if they're deaf of course, in which case I would give them their own room. Have you ever lived with a deaf person? They are loud! Banging doors and cupboards all the time, they have no idea what it means to be without noise. LOL!
What are you hiding from the Stasi or something? You don't need a safe space for that Spider, especially at university where conflicting ideas are confronted and worked through. You don't need a designated 'safe space' from abstract threats, its not a sign of being intellectually grounded but emotionally fragile. All controversial issues will bring on verbal conflict, that's why they're controversial. What will these tender hearts do when they're outside of the university living in a world without 'safe spaces'.Its this same wing of the Left that came out with 'safety pins' after Trumps win. Little pinsto let other's know that they're 'safe', that they're not a Trump supporter. Its so childish they should be ejected from the Left all together. They need their own group, something like 'emo.
Nobody has ever suggested eliminating the public space and commons. Yes. Read what they wrote. Malcolm X recommended jail time, even, as the only readily obtainable safe space for black intellectuals in the US. James Baldwin recommended France or Italy. Frequently we see the Christian church and ministry, with its sanctuaries - literally so called - as safe spaces for black people (which was noticed by last generation's trumpvoters, making them firebombing targets for a while). Their unusual strengths and abilities have earned for them status as heroes. Thousands did not "manage". The failure rate of black men in white colleges was then and remains now very, very high.
NoI know its not eliminating the 'commons', it has nothing to do with that. Its the idea that they need a safe space at all by the time they get to university. Yeah well Malcolm said that because that's where black men were being introduced to black nationalism and Islam by other inmates who were reading the works of Du Boise among others. James Baldwin left the US not because he was looking for a 'safe space' he left the US because as he put it “Do I really want to be integrated into a burning house?” If he were here today he'd say its still burning. So black communities are not safe for black people? There are no safe spaces from racial attacks if someone is bent on using violence. Do you think M. L. King suggested to black people to remain where its 'safe'? Was the church 6th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama a 'safe space' from bombing for activists and churchgoers? No. There is a problem if we're going to take the racism that existed during Jim Crowe and apply them to today. Have you ever thought to blame affirmative action to the high drop out rate at white colleges? The single biggest problem in this system -- a problem documented by a vast and growing array of research -- is the tendency of large preferences to boomerang and harm their intended beneficiaries. Large preferences often place students in environments where they can neither learn nor compete effectively -- even though these same students would thrive had they gone to less competitive but still quite good schools. We refer to this problem as "mismatch," a word that largely explains why, even though blacks are more likely to enter college than are whites with similar backgrounds, they will usually get much lower grades, rank toward the bottom of the class, and far more often drop out. Because of mismatch, racial preference policies often stigmatize minorities, reinforce pernicious stereotypes, and undermine the self-confidence of beneficiaries, rather than creating the diverse racial utopias so often advertised in college campus brochures. The mismatch effect happens when a school extends to a student such a large admissions preference -- sometimes because of a student's athletic prowess or legacy connection to the school, but usually because of the student's race -- that the student finds himself in a class where he has weaker academic preparation than nearly all of his classmates. The student who would flourish at, say, Wake Forest or the University of Richmond, instead finds himself at Duke, where the professors are not teaching at a pace designed for him -- they are teaching to the "middle" of the class, introducing terms and concepts at a speed that is unnerving even to the best-prepared student...So we have a terrible confluence of forces putting students in classes for which they aren't prepared, causing them to lose confidence and underperform even more while, at the same time, consolidating the stereotype that they are inherently poor students. And you can see how at each level there are feedback effects that reinforce the self-doubts of all the students who are struggling. https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...ainful-truth-about-affirmative-action/263122/ Because its not helpful to hurry students into university when society has failed to provide adequate, high performing high schools. Its not helpful to hurry students into university before you invest in their communities so they can support education, it may help an institution look more 'diverse' but it doesn't actually help a student or their community if that student isn't prepared, doesn't have the skills for it. H.S. graduation rates are low among blacks and latinos, perhaps we should start from there and not worry about how they'll do in college so much. Another aspect that needs to be addressed is the criminal justice system. Philip N. Cohen, a sociologist at the University of Maryland says "The most blatant example of racism today is the criminal justice system, including the school-to-prison cycle. This dynamic begins with the disproportionate enforcement of zero tolerance laws and the sentencing practices that result in harsher penalties given to black people than their white counterparts.The cycle can begin as early as elementary school where black students receive harsher punitive measures (suspension, expulsion, corporal punishment) and less mild discipline than their non-minority peers. They are then sent back to the negative environments, including broken homes, foster care, and prison and juvenile detention camps that reinforce and teach negative behavior." Why are we addressing drop out rates in university before we address the wellness of the black community where it starts, in the community not the college campus. Some of these problems can be legislated with money and resources thrown at it but the cultural aspects that contribute to crime, broken families and the idea that one is a victim can only be solved from within the community itself. There is a woman named Dr. Joy DeGruy who's created a thesis called Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome. It would take too long to explain here but basically she ties how blacks behave today to a kind of generational ptsd. You can find some of her talks of youtube if you're interested. Anyway she makes a good case for PTSS and she throws a lot of blame on white society of course but if the core of her thesis is true then her or other's will have to come up with a system to address these issues which are mostly psychological and rooted in ones sense of self or how they see themselves in the world. No one can legislate the trauma away and yet she states PTSS is not a disorder that can simply be treated and remedied clinically but rather also requires profound social change in individuals, as well as in institutions that continue to reify inequality and injustice toward the descendants of enslaved Africans. I see no reason for that to be true. Jews didn't rely on social change and institutions to help them through the holocaust but the community did address it and it can be found in the work of Elie Wiesel and Issac Bashevis Singer, where they work through the ptsd re-forming them after the holocaust. Singer's "Enemies, A Love Story" is all about ptsd even though that was not once mentioned in the novel.
