Yahweh and Allah. Are they moral and ethical Gods?

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  1. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Logically?

    Not if that all mighty wants to be relevant to us.

    Can you be relevant to those you care about if you never interact with them?

    Doubtful.

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  3. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    If we are to operate on the presumption that they are all powerful... does it matter if they adhere to mortal ideas of morality or ethics? Who is going to stop them - certainly not you, GIA...
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Do we deserve having bad things happen to us which are NOT the result of any choice we made?

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  7. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    No.!!!
    Bad thangs/punishment is never deserved.!!!
     
  8. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    By this logic, God is too complicated to have just happened by chance. It's turtles all the way down.
     
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  9. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    A wise man once said:
    "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness, that is life."
    - Jean Luc Picard to Wesley Crusher

    Star Trek: The Next Generation
    Season 2 Episode 21 - Peak Performance
     
  10. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    True, but unlike many believers, I do not have to put my head up their immoral God's ass out of fear.

    That place is rather crowded already and I prefer the fresh air of free and more moral thinking.

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  11. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    So you are only here to, once again, bitch about religion as a whole, then?
     
  12. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    He's perfect. What else do you believe any how?

    Passive faith reflects out reality.
     
  13. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    • Please do not proselytise.
    That and push my own uncorrupted ideology.

    Most religions are corrupted by homophobia and misogyny. Do you know of any uncorrupted supernaturally based religion and why do you support them, if you do?

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  14. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    If you think he is perfect, then you would not understand what a Gnostic Christian believes.

    For instance, you would not understand why we dislike a genocidal son murdering Gods like Yahweh/Jesus or why we dislike slave holding ideologies like Islam.

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  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    So proselytizing it is, then...
     
  16. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Good queston an ant dificult to answr sinse i ant a member of a Christan religion an have turn a blind eye to the horror-show that it is to be able to look at myself in a mirror... lol... an no... i dont suport misogyny or homophobia... or look for spiritual guidance from a "Holey-Book" that does.!!!
     
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    Moderator note: Greatest I am has received an official warning for proselytising. (This isn't the first instance of this from this member, either.)
     
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  18. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I am here to either learn, teach or preach.

    You are here for the same reasons so put your childish labeling up where it belongs.

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  19. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Thank God for that, so to speak.

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  20. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    If one cannot show an uncorrupted ideology while showing the corruption of the other, then a move to a better ideology that remains hidden does not serve anyone.

    I expect conflict here and for you to try to prevent it, when it is built into religion, is quite droll.



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  21. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    That's because your head is up your own ass with your obsession for religion. Get a hobby and get out more.
    Among believers and non-believers there are hot-heads in both camps that cause trouble...your the obsessive hot-head among the non-belivers.
     
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  22. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Your personal beliefs aside... you did agree to abide by a set of rules when you joined. Said rules include:

     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Unitarian Universalists do a pretty good job.
     
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