Are Republicans Preparing to Militarize?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tiassa, May 30, 2017.

  1. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    You know I'd love to have a cordial conversation with a liberal, where somehow, demeaning my intelligence isn't necessary to increase theirs.

    I can't open under my old ID. It is no longer active, and I can no longer open it. However, I would gladly have it re-activated. Do you have any helpful suggestions?
     
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  3. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    You're making a straw man because you are uninformed and you have a weak position... I didn't particularly like Obama, and I don't particularly like Trump either. In hindsight I didn't like Bush, and I don't want another Clinton. Sanders might be ok. What new label will you give rather than making an intelligent point?

    Yes I read that. Why do you think the military liked Obama? The majority of your "comrades" in the military weren't too happy with him. You must be out of touch. http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/obama-legacy-military

    I know people in the army reserves that say the troop morale was at an all-time low under Obama. When was the last time you served in Iraq and Afghanistan "comrade"?
     
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  5. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    You aren't everyone comrade. Oops. I'm sorry to have to break your reality with a little truth.

    And where is your evidence the majority of my "comrades" in the military aren't too happy with Obama, and why does that matter? Obama isn't POTUS. Your man Trump is. The military is like America at large. You will find Democrats and Republicans in the military. Often in American history the POTUS has been at odds with some members of the military, e.g. Truman v. MacArthur. That's not a bad thing. That's why the framers of the Constitution put civilians in charge of the military. That's why President Eisenhower, a famous and popular general, warned Americans of the military-industrial complex.
     
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  7. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    The truth isn't "depersonification" or a straw man "attack". It's just the truth. In hindsight you didn't like Bush, but you liked him while he was POTUS.

    Who do you think you are fooling comrade? You have and continue to spew a alt right wing ideology and you want people to believe you would support Sanders whose ideology is entirely antithetical to your alt right ideology? Are you serious or are you just that ignorant and disconnected?

    As I have repeatedly told you now, it doesn't matter what most members of the military think. Obama isn't POTUS and you and your fellow right wingers need to stop using him as a crutch, i.e. a distraction. You need to stand on your own two feet. You need to man up.

    I know people in the military too. How do those people you know, know military morale was at an all time low? If they really believe that, they need to man up. I was in the military during the Vietnam War. The folks you know don't know what low morale even looks like. Hyperbole is popular with right wingers such as yourself and your man The Donald, but it isn't at all truthful.

    Whether I served in Iraq or Afghanistan or not, is irrelevant. I have cousins who did. But even so, it's irrelevant. You need to man up.
     
  8. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    Me too. It's just a straw man tactic. I'm not a facist. Maybe I am to you though. It requires less intellect on your part. You know I would be glad to have a cordial coversation with a liberal, where somehow demeaning my intelligence and character wasn't needed to increase theirs.

    ok. You're just a dumb ass that can't open a link I gave.
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    I'm thinking the same about you, now that you mention it.

    You and your crystal ball of innuendo.
    Well I originally pointed out that the military feels we are in a weaker position, and you made up he rest. Where did I say any of that?

    You can't stop talking long enough to even read. Read the link. There are many causes for the lower morale, and one of the worst is Obama's social policies in the military.

    I don't give a shit about political ideology anymore. So what's your excuse?

    No sign of intelligence on your part. Have someone read the link for you, since you find yourself incapable.
     
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  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    He's no more communist than Putin. He just supports the Kremlin. (Which makes sense; they helped him win the election.) Although recently the Russians have been having a bit of buyer's remorse. "Gee, we helped get a shallow, impulsive idiot elected - and now he's acting shallow and impulsive! No one could have foreseen this!" In that respect they have a lot in common with Trump supporters.
    No, Russian communists think communism is for _other_ people.
     
  10. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    I'm way too old to man up, and it sounds like you're way too young. I think you're a little kid in an army helmet, and your grandpa served in viet nam.
     
  11. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well, that kind of disconnected thinking is at least consistent from you comrade. I'm 62. Oops. I have a son who has been in the military for 10 years and you think I'm a young whippersnapper?
     
  12. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah sure...Joe sez so. Yawn...
     
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  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I've had lots of cordial conversations with intelligent conservatives.
     
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  14. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    I'm still waiting to have a cordial one with an intelligent liberal.

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  15. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    Russian conspiracy theories always seem to come back to the people that start them: *chuckle*

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  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So what? Why is the military the only welfare system conservatives don't want to cut? What huge war do you want to fight?
     
  17. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Said the pot to the kettle....you've been one of the very bid conspiracy advocate on in this forum. You love conspiracies. Your cite conspiracy web sites as references. You are just fine with conspiracies as long as a Democrats is the butt of that conspiracy.

    Both Democrats and Republicans acknowledge:

    a) Russia interfered with our election with the intent of swinging the election to Trump per all American intelligence agencies and many foreign intelligence agencies.
    b) Trump publicly called upon Russia to release emails Trump claimed to be damaging to Clinton, and Russia subsequently did so.
    c) Trump's closes advisers were paid directly or indirectly by Russia.
    d) Those advisers were required by law to register as foreign agents and failed to do so.
    e) A number of Trump's closes advisers held secret meetings with Russian intelligence officers and at least one Russian banker, and subsequently lied about those meetings.
    f) Trump's closest advisers all developed a case of amnesia with respect to Russia, because they all failed to disclose their Russian associations on their security forms as they were required by law to do.
    g) Trump has from day one refused to say anything even slightly critical about Putin.
    h) Trump has actively tried to suppress this investigation: first by co-opting the House investigation and most recently by firing the law enforcement officer responsible for the investigation of his Russian connections. Why would he do that if there wasn't anything to suppress?
    i) It's a fact Trump sold a property to a Russian oligarch for 3 times its worth, a home the oligarch never saw or used. That has all the hallmarks of money laundering.
    j) There is a report from a British intelligence official which asserts Trump has been compromised by Russia, and that report has been at least partially corroborated by American intelligence officials.
    k) Trump's close adviser attempted to establish a secret communication process using Russian equipment in order to communicate with Russian officials and avoid US counterintelligence.

    That's just what we know. Those aren't conspiracies theories comrades. Those are facts.

    Comrade you need to try being honest for once.
     
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  18. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    Hello Spider. Long time no speak.

    I think the better question is "What huge super-mighty war do the North Koreans want to fight?" We can cut our military defense of liberal California and I'm all about it. They won't defend their own borders anyway. Why should we spend another dime on their defense when they want to be invaded?
     
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  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So, through a relatively small investment in a missile program, North Korea is forcing us to keep extraneous generals and expand our already largest military in the world? I have another explanation, it's a corrupt relationship between the military and Republicans, who would rather starve the poor than build one less useless battleship, so they can beat their chests and look strong to fake patriots.
     
  20. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    I think you need to look at the big picture -- we have a nuclear arms race underway for all scenarios with NK's missile program.

    This video explains it: https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/687253371462268/
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    From what you post here, you're not capable of that; you are being led around by the nose by the right wing media and just repeating all their talking points. You'd have to up your game to be able to have an intelligent conversation. (And funny pictures of skeletons and jokes don't count as intelligent conversation, believe it or not.)
     
  22. Woody1 Registered Senior Member

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    I could probably enjoy a conversation with you, where somehow, demeaning my intelligence isn't necessary to increase yours, but I see that isn't going to happen. So you join Joe Pistole in the virtual graveyard. Bump
     
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  23. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Getting back to the OP, I think the answer is yes. When have they not? Their attempt to politicize the judicial system and US military should be of deep concern to all Americans,.
     

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