Along with the first movie and V'GER "From hell's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee" Khan's final words. An inference to Herman Melville's "Moby Dick" and Captain Ahab. [Yes, I still have a copy of that book, more then 40 years old. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!]
Everybody hates ST:TMP I liked it. Real Where No Man Has Gone Before stuff. It's just the blue pajamas that do it in.
Frankly these latest Star Trek movies are not in the spirit of original Star Trek, they are extremely violent and are not about exploration. =/ Is sad
Plus the wide-spread use of CGI means you end up with mickey-mouse stuff like riding a classic motorbike around with gas that solidifies in an instant. Turns it all into a cartoon, with no real sense of peril and little emotional involvement with the characters. The original films relied as much on the interaction between the characters as the special effects, whereas now, other than the names being the same, it feels too generic, too formulaic, too much action, CGI and ridiculous stories. And for the love of all that is good in sci-if, why do we need to see the Enterprise get destroyed every damn film!! (Or at least it feels that often). Maybe I'm getting more discerning in my dotage, but I quite like a modicum more thought in my sci-if these days, not just bright colours, loud explosions, and chaos. It would be great if we could have a new series of Star Trek that was actually more cerebral, more realistic and took things seriously. Where a 5-year tour took its toll on the crew, where things didn't always look pristine. Where the newest star base didn't just pop up with 20-million people and look like a dull sterile vision of an urban "paradise". Something in the vein of the Battlestar Galactica reboot, but more isolated rather than having a rag-tag fleet of survivors behind you. Anyhoo - I always watch the ST films and mostly enjoy them for a while, but I'm always hoping that they'll surprise me with how good they are... and always left feeling disappointed. As someone above said, they're just not memorable any more.
Hmmm.... So without this " emotional rage " , the ST movie would not otherwise be , " memorable " ? Is that it ?
its emotions that always got me to watch Star Trek, the different faucets of expression of actors. Notice how many emotions there are in old Star Trek series and the Star Trek movie they are showing now. The emotions that they displayed, I shared while watching, these are: abandoned acceptance adoration affection Aggravated agitated agressive alert amazed ambitious amused anger, anger2 animosity annoyed anticipation, anticipation2 anxiousness appreciative apprehensive ardent aroused ashamed astonished attraction (sexual) attraction (intellectual) attraction (spiritual) awed betrayed bewildered bitter bliss blue boastful bored breathless bubbly calamitous calm camaraderie cautious cheerful cocky cold collected comfortable compassionate concerned confident confused contempt content courageous cowardly crafty cranky crazy cruelty crummy crushed curious cynic dark dejected delighted delirious denial depression desire poem despair determined devastated disappointed discouraged disgust disheartened dismal dispirited distracted distressed dopey down dreadful dreary eager ecstatic embarrassed emotional-detest empathic emptiness enchanted enigmatic enlightened enraged enthralled enthusiastic envy euphoric excited exhausted expectation exuberance fascinated fear flabbergasted fight-or-flight foolish frazzled frustrated fulfillment furious gay giddy gleeful gloomy goofy grateful gratified greedy Gray Because a Broken Heart grief poem grouchy grudging guilty happyhappy2 hate heartbroken homesick hopeful hopeless horrified hostile humiliated humored hurt hyper hysterical indignation infatuation infuriated inner peace innocent insanity insecure insecure inspired poem interest intimidated invidious irate irritability irritated jaded jealousy joy jubilant kind lazy left out liberated lively loathsome lonely longing love lovesick loyal lust mad mean melancholic mellow mercy merry mildness miserable morbid mourning needed needy nervous obscene obsessed offended optimistic outraged overwhelmed pacified pain panicky paranoia passion pathetic peaceful perturbation pessimistic petrified pity playful pleased pleasure possessive pride provoked proud puzzled rage regretful relief remorse resentment resignation resolved re sadness satisfied scared Schadenfreudesong about Schadenfreude scorn selfish sensual sensitive sexy shame sheepish shocked shy sincerity solemn somber sorrow sorry spirited stressedstressed2 strong submissive superior surprised sweet sympathetic temperamental tense terrified threatened thrilled tired tranquil troubled trust tormented uncertainty uneasiness unhappy upset vengeful vicious warm weary worn-out worried worthless wrathful yearning zesty .... and what does Star Trek movie in 2000s have? Lust, Anger, Being puzzled, flirtiness...the emphasis is on VIOLENCE, SEX, DECEITFULNESS. Actually tell me the emotions you are experiencing through characters in Star Trek originals vs Star Trek the movie (2000s).
Hmmm.... I watched ST for its advancedments , in Humanity and the starship , Enterprise . And more importantly , EXPLORATION .
I know Shatner tends to pour out emotions, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call him a faucet. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I meant facets, not "faucets" but yest Shatner has been pouring out emotions and thats why I love Star Trek originals.
No. It's a spinoff. A reboot is a retelling of the original story. A spinoff is a new story in the same universe.
A spinoff is a new story but does not have to be in the same universe. The latest movies are not a retelling of the original story. They are new stories about new characters. ><