Gravity waves detected for the first time ever

To even decipher that my posts are foolish (almost nil possibility), you got to be extremely intelligent. You are a guy with average intelligence, its beyond your reach.

 

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comical--seriously?--you are seriously questioning this?? hey mr. " god, " what PhDs do you hold?--oh, none--- i see--not even an associates, let alone, not even a course of besides wikki, google and such, correct?

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(shakes head)--what a massive pathetic joke you truly are.

 

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unlike your so-called intellect, correct?-- which is nothing more than the little that could nonsense/shenanigans--which you make obvious with every post you initiate.

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(shakes head)--carry on, oh pathetic one.

 

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Quite poetic.....

 

I am sure... " which is nothing more than the little[edit: engine] that could nonsense/shenanigans. " (shakes head)--carry on.
also,
" what PhDs do you hold?--oh, none--- i see--not even an associates, let alone, not even a course of besides wikki, google and such, correct? "

 

This post is public shaming. No non-moderator has a right to reply as it is off-topic. It is presented as justification for swift and large warnings in the future and in the hope that all members will learn from this example to be more empathetic with both management and other posters and to not drag the baggage of history and prejudice into these forums.

But (A) That's not your job, if you think it is you are going to continue to be warned for unjustified harassment (B) You are not very good at it, you don't spend enough time reading before replying and the quality of your posts suffers and (C) cutting-and-pasting a block of text to intimidate is a Farsight tactic, not responsible argumentation. Calm the fuck down.

Much too personal. Much too aggressive. Are you trying to intimidate someone off the Internet? How is that not thuggish? How is that not bullying?

Admitting you don't understand your own citation just makes it look more like senseless harassment.

Your post was senseless provocation which immunizes The God from prosecution. You are not helping.

That's not your call to make.

 

You have not argued that your analogy is a good one.

Everyone is ignorant. You have to be more specific. But by supporting the scientific mainstream, they, in their ignorance, rely on the research of millions and cannot be far wrong in that reliance. To persuade otherwise requires some specific fact-based argument.

Who the what now?

You are confusing wisdom, education and intelligence. They are not synonyms. Also, here you are the one who senselessly provoked a whole crowd of people who were not replying to this post.

Take the advice I gave paddoboy and calm down, write more sensible posts and back away from tit-for-tat responses that immunize those you attack.

 

These sort of posts are very annoying and don't appear to make the thread better.

 

Hardly a fair or reasonable assessment. Please calm down.

Who the what now? [Citation required] Paddoboy would challenge you on this point in post #536.

 

It looks like you could use some education on the topic of the correspondence principle and the philosophy of physics including what a scientific theory is. There is no finality to scientific research because we can only test how reality behaves, not what it is. But because what it is appears to be what it was, old accepted models of reality correspond in predictions closely to new accepted models of reality in domains where they overlap precisely because they are both closely predicting the behavior of the same reality, even if their language and methods are widely different.

 

In the wave detected? Not at all. Only a very high-frequency graviton would be even theoretically detectible as an isolated quantum of energy and momentum. We would need a laboratory source of very tiny black holes to have a hope of doing detection of gravitational quanta.

Only in details. At large scalar quantum gravity must closely approximate the predictions of behavior given by General Relativity just a General Relativity at slow speeds and low densities closely approximates the predictions of behavior given by Newtonian Universal Gravitation. This is the principle of correspondence. It makes physics revolutions less revolutionary because old theories, by virtue of being able to predict the behavior of a wide range of phenomena, don't become any less good at predicting those behaviors just because some new theory does better or over a wider range of circumstances.

 

Public shaming?? You mean like the public shaming at post 579 of a relatively new member?
Yet I was warned by James for my comments re another new member a while back [expletives deleted]

No, its not my job, and yes I'm probably not very good at it anyway, but while I post in the sciences sections, I'll continue to at least try and uphold what is generally recognised by mainstream science. Also you seem to have missed a heap of posts where other harassment has taken place as well as flaming.
Obviously the tactics and lax rules on this forum of bending over backwards for those opposing and dissing mainstream science continues. Something not tolerated on other science forums, and yet as a forum, our traffic and content is down despite the efforts by Plasma to resurrect.
Perhaps people need to discuss science, real science, not half baked attempts to rewrite 21st century cosmology on a forum such as this.

And yet the senseless provocations, flaming and lies continues from my adversary, unabated, not only to me but anyone that dares question his position.
Yes, I know what you'll say: report it.

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Perhaps as a moderator and the admins also, you need to stop leaning over backwards for those dissing science at every opportunity and start asking yourselves questions in the back room re why the traffic is down, despite what Plasma is doing...perhaps the powers that be need to question why even dissent among the moderators themselves over this issue is obvious.
Perhaps the powers that be need to question why we even have a fringe section, when most of the fringe crank science is discussed in the proper sciences sections.

That's not what I said and is no more than "the god" like dishonest tactics that he frequently indulges in.
I said I did not understand all the citation/paper: The gist of the paper was obvious and that's why I posted it..

I'm not making the call: I'm commenting on what I think should be.
Apologies if my reply to you is unwarranted or not up to your own standards, but that's the way it is.
In essence, I certainly disagree with your stand on this issue and James'stand obviously.
This "bending over backwards" in an effort to promote the "justice must be seen to be done" aspect of this forum is not working. It's as simple as that, but as you say, that's not my call.

PS: Oh and finally

Now that really made me laugh and to who and what it was inferring.
At this stage I'll just

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Thank you for addressing my question.
Alex

 

I can see that you feel I was trying to attack you.
And in reflection perhaps I should have been more delicate.
I think I have identified the game here... It seems to be all about who will have the final word and I am happy to let you have it if that is what makes you feel good about your approach.

I have no enemies and still regard you with respect knowing we are all individual and none should not judge others.

Please continue with the science after all it is the interest we all share in common.

Alex

 

I am publicly reporting this.....I am yet to figure out what is the god like dishonest tactics ? He provokes, I fire, I get good points from dear Jimmy R, and then enjoy 3 days off...but why ?

Can I write 'Paddoboyesque foolishness' without provoking him ? Even if it is justified. I don't t think.

 

Rpenner,

Don't treat this as complaining reply to your detailed post. That was a hardwork, sifting throuigh so many posts, I take responsibility for my share of nonsense which I spew, and I spew for two good reasons..


1. To retaliate, because my take sometimes is to dig deeper on mainstream, which is and may appear contrarion, and many without understanding either the mainstream or my point, term my stand as nonsense crankdom. The idea is to understand, whether the prevalent notion is popscience or real mainstream or even at a theoretical footing which is evolving or at a footing which is doubtful but TINA (There is no alternative).

2. Admonish pretentious people (although not my job but Moderation generally skip or don't read all the slips) who provide incorrect interpretation of mainstream and stick to that too, even when pointed out. The situation becomes extremely intolerable when such people pretend somekind of expertise or take higher stand. For example this guy Russ watters, he made a mistake with that calculations and arrived at 0.57 figure, his earlier posts clearly reflected that he was attempting to guide Daecon incorrectly (ref to Trig Functions, ref to Hypotaneous etc, two sides of triangle) and when pointed out he said oh...this is typo. How can you get such typo from two simple figures 1.4 and 150. It did not stop with that he is further messing up with that cosmological and doppler redshift and trying to divert the attention. He trolled from a position of utter ignorance that he can make me do the calculations in step, he apparently took one month in some other thread to the same calculation and when I saw that thread there was none, it was all comical, you took only one post. Whether I am satisified or not can be left to my intelligence or stupidity but you did a wonderful job and I had no reason to question that. But till then the thread had funny qualitative statements like...it is no paradox, you are a crank, come on I will guide you through maths without knowing abc of a triangle, this is another of your anti mainstream agenda, deity came and said wow light and now darkness........phew.

3. I do not interact with Krash661 on meaningful footing, all my responses to him are humorous (for me atleast), the guy does nothing other than shaking and shrugging, and may be who knows far...ing.


I urge you, you are a knowledgeable man, this exercise may drain you, but please do not let any mistake go unnoticed in science section, let your Mod posts be of different color. Whenever there is a blatant misinterpretation of established science (mainstream), please intervene and correct. I can volunteer here. [You have to make a distinction between questioning mainstream and incorrect representation of mainstream.


One last question : How does Paddoboy know that the traffic to this site is reduced ? Why does he feel (and thus demean) that whatever good work Plazma is doing in updating the forum with latest technological information, is for commercial purpose ?

 

I am dropping off with you. But please do not use this apparently disguised 'saintly sermon like language' on this science forum.

 

Hmmm... What is the problem here .

Are gravity waves detected or not ? Plain and simple .

 

Yes gravitational waves have been detected and confirmed, as well as BH confirmation and as a consequence more certainty for GR.
The thread has been hijacked/side tracked.

 

The most obvious guess as to the mistaken figure is a typo.
\( \frac{180}{\pi} \approx 57.29578 \\ \frac{180}{\pi} \times \frac{1.5}{150} \approx 0.57 \\ \frac{180}{\pi} \times \frac{1.4}{150} \approx 0.53 \)

It's this constant dragging of emotional baggage from thread to thread that makes your posts (and the posts of certain others) so annoying to read. This is a science forum, not a byzantine novel of court intrigue.