Why do ghosts wear human clothes?

Which is what gets them ignored. See how that works? I will not tolerate trolls presuming to speak for other posters.

 

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No it doesn't. The definitions you listed don't match at all. Paranormal involves supernatural agencies and events that are beyond scientific explanations, and extraordinary means out of the ordinary. The paranormal isn't out of the ordinary. 1 out 5 americans reports seeing a ghost. That makes it pretty common.

 

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Gullibility is certainly rather common. I'm still with the more critical 4 out of 5 that are not as gullible.
And again, extraordinary claims do require extraordinary evidence.

 

Actually it's to inform and enlighten the supposedly LEAST gullible of all---the science geeks who hang out in this forum all day and take out their frustrations on other less "scientific" posters.

Why would I wanna preach to the choir? To the ones already accepting of these possibilities? No, I post here in the forum set aside precisely for the topics I am posting about to discuss and debate the issues with others. I'd like people to see the evidence for these things so they can make an informed decision about them. Same as you and your crusade to teach everyone critical thinking on this science site. As if that will somehow save humanity from the evils of superstition and ignorance. I find it ironic that a discussion forum dedicated to free thought and open dialogue should get so defensive about subjects like these. As if merely believing in such things makes me the member of some evil infiltrating underground. I don't think you people have anything to worry about if your position is so secure. I'm simply providing evidence and logical arguments for astonishing things that you and your cohorts do all in your power to deny exist. What's so horrible about that? That's the way of science isn't it? If I'm mistaken, it should be relatively easy to show me the errors of my ways. So far though that hasn't been done. Not to my knowledge.

 

Of course its been done...and it's all been explained to you, its just not what you want to hear.
And no one is getting defensive, in fact as has been shown of some of your posts of late, when your credibility has been brought into question, it's yourself getting defensive and emotive.......

 

Why thank you.

You see us as highly scientific and not gullible.

That's a huge compliment, and sign of respect, coming from an erstwhile opponent.

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Considering that you keep ignoring any attempts to show you the error of your ways, what exactly are you looking for?

It's been explained what it would take for science to accept the existence of ghosts, but what would it take to convince you that ghosts aren't real?

 

Apparently you have a very special definition of "ordinary"... considering you prefer to show blatant disregard for logic, reason, and the English language in a sad attempt to justify your illogical ramblings, I'm honestly not surprised.

 

You'd have to show every person who's ever reported paranormal activity and every investigative group who ever did an investigation that had evidence was faking it or deluded by something mundane. There's no way you could do that. The phenomena is too prevalent and shows the same patterns over and over again.

 

So you're saying that there's essentially nothing that would ever convince you that you're wrong?

And you think skeptics are close-minded?

 

I've seen the evidence. 14 years of studying this field and observing hundreds of investigations. You can't undo all that evidence. You can't argue it out of existence. It is what it is.

 

I can think of something that would convince me ghosts are real...

I doubt anyone is willing (or capable) of making it happen though

 

That is tantamount to everything is real until and unless shown to be otherwise.

That is exactly upside down.

That is the tenet of the gullible, not the thoughtful.

 

There is no way you've been seriously and objectively studying this for 14 years without having become a skeptic.
An armchair paranormologist, maybe.

 

How long have you been studying it?

 

LOL! Yes..everything people report seeing and hearing is real unless there is a compelling reason to doubt them. That's just called sane living.

 

Now your stance on ghosts makes perfect sense.

It is not about skepticism, or investigation at all. Someone tells you something (or you read something that someone wrote, or you hear something that someone said about someone else's experience) and you take it as true.

This is a very, very different debate than any objective assessment of facts or accounts.

This is an issue of faith.

 

Except there IS compelling reason to doubt them... chief among them the fact that our senses are fallible and easily fooled into making something out of nothing. This has been shown and proven to you several times, yet you continue to pretend it doesn't exist... then you have the audacity to wonder why you are considered dishonest.

 

Move along troll or I'll report you for insults and flaming as usual.