Are You A Quantum Creationist?

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by Eugene Shubert, Aug 13, 2015.

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  1. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Why must I explain the mainstream view of quantum creationism when it is no longer an esoteric concept that is only appreciated and taught by mathematical physicists? The concept is now acknowledged to be real science in the popular culture.

     
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  3. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Heh - that episode was on tonight here! Funny one. Nothing to do with "quantum creationism" though, or your claim that Prof. Vilenkin is one. As others said: you made up the term. It isn't mentioned in that video or the first one you posted.

    Eugene, if you want to have a real discussion, you are going to have to start actually discussing what you want to discuss, for real. Otherwise, this thread is likely to go downhill fast, and these types of trainwrecks often end in the banning of the OP.
     
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  5. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    So the spontaneous quantum creation of "a beautiful woman" has nothing to do with "quantum creationism" as defined by me? So let's add your most recent reply to your continually expanding record, which still shows that you can't tolerate a simple and perfectly reasonable definition, and let me propose a hypothesis. You're an atheist and your atheism is preventing you from being able to discern what is astonishingly simple.
     
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  7. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    Eugene Shubee Shubert is a Seventh Day Acventist. Put his name in google. He's a hall of fame crank at sciphysicsrelativity. The Google Group. Pure knuckleheadism.
     
  8. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    No. I am a former Seventh-day Adventist and now a Confessing Millerite Adventist. What does that have to do with my question: Are You A Quantum Creationist?
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That's because he's not a creationist twit like yourself.
     
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  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I'll fight for the right for anyone to say what they think, but each is also responsible for what they are saying and what they claim and whom it effects.
    So you are a religious troll?
    Your question is not a legitimate question for reasons already stated, and you being the religious troll you are, have an agenda, and a response already to reply to any answer you are given.
    Congratulations troll.
     
  11. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Um, really? That's how you define "quantum creationism"? You do realize that was a joke in a sitcom, right? Wait -- is this a joke? Oh, that explains a lot.
    Swing and a miss. Not sure what that has to do with the topic of the thread, though.

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  12. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Cesspool.
     
  13. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Impressive commitment, though, you must admit.
     
  14. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Excuse me spidergoat. Prof. Alexander Vilenkin is a quantum creationist, if he, like Prof. Stephen Hawking, believes in quantum creationism.
     
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    There is no such animal as a Quantum Creationist.
    That is just some terminology you have made up in your religiously inspired trolling.
    God does not like trolls!
     
  16. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    He doesn't. He most certainly didn't say it in the video.
     
  17. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Prof. Alexander Vilenkin does use the term "quantum creation" is the first video. And the spontaneous quantum creation of "a beautiful woman" out of inanimate matter is a perfectly unambiguous illustration of "quantum creationism" as I have defined the term. Thus, your whining is completely unjustified.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The troll-fu is strong in this one.
     
  19. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    But not "quantum creationism". And did you listen to the first sentence he said in the video?
    Are you familiar with the concept of a joke? Is this thread a joke? Listen, this is your thread -- do you want it to be locked/cesspooled? It's really up to you what happens here and the path you are on right now will not lead anywhere useful. Is that ok with you?
     
  20. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Prof. Alexander Vilenkin didn't confess in that video to being a quantum creationist. He just asserts that a "quantum creation" of the universe is extremely reasonable. There are also other unabashed cosmologists. For instance, Stephen Hawking asserts that he and Jim Hartle have developed a view of "the spontaneous quantum creation of the universe."
     
  21. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Great! So you admit that your claim in the OP is unfounded! So, what is the point of this thread?
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    God bothering?
     
  23. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    It is important that honest reactions to the reasonable question of this thread Are You A Quantum Creationist? be recorded.
     
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