Ancient Flying Machines, is it real?

Discussion in 'History' started by Shadow1, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    Now, you are taking a real issue and making it a Myth...that is amazing...so what you write is also unreliable because you were not there...or misquoting it or under US spy program...correct?
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    What real issue?

    "Being there" does not make anybody a reliable witness.

    Are you suggesting that I'm part of a conspiracy?

    I'm just pointing out a sensible explanation. To sensible people, a sensible explanation is better than woo.
     
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  5. kmguru Staff Member

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    Looks like I am not in the Dumb and Dumber sensible group....thank you....
     
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  7. madethesame Banned Banned

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    Their is something in wackypedia :
    Shivkar Bāpuji Talpade (born in 1864 in Mumbai) is an Indian scholar who is supposed to have constructed and flown India's first unmanned airplane in 1895.,[1] 8 years before the Wright brothers' Wright Flyer, the first controlled, powered and sustained heavier-than-air human flight. Talpade's airplane was named Marutsakhā. Talpade lived in Mumbai and was a scholar of Sanskrit literature and the Vedas.[2]

    Talpade is supposed to have constructed Marutsakhā under the guidance of Pandit Subbarāya Shāstry. Shāstry was the author of the Vaimānika Shāstra, an early 20th-century Sanskrit text on aeronautics supposedly obtained by psychic channeling studies and automatic writing. Contemporary accounts of a successful flight or evidences of such an achievement are scarce and the technical feasibility is dubious.[3] The technical basis of the Vedic Ion Design of supposedly used by Talpade has been deprecated by researches into the technological feasibility of such flights Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore,.[4] This issue was also raised by Steven J. Rosen [5] in his book 'The Jedi in the Lotus: Star Wars and the Hindu Tradition'.
     
  8. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You're in the woo group.
     
  9. kmguru Staff Member

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    Then I need to watch my step...thanks...no point getting in to La Brea Tar Pit...
     
  10. hey___ Registered Member

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  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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  12. hey___ Registered Member

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    You can't have video proof of sth done hundreds years ago

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    There s a known book there mentions about it, finding some tools looks like wings or kinda planes also nothing accurate..
     
  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    So what?

    And I've got a book about a talking bear, piglet and kangaroo - what's your point?

    There is NO EVIDENCE that the claim in the book is factual.
     
  14. hey___ Registered Member

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    Where you find factual evidence in ancient times? This book is not a story book, it s travelogue from famous adventurer, i saw english wikipedia translate it very different way. Whats written there a guy made wingslike tools and soar from galata tower which is very likely to happen, not talking about Peter Pan..
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    In other words you have nothing to support the contention.

    With no evidence that everything included in it is factual.

    So what?
    The Bible - also (supposedly) not a story book - claims that something called "god" exists. There's no evidence for that either.
     
  16. hey___ Registered Member

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    For ancient times you can't proves everything easily, i said sth i know i didn't tell this is universal law. (note that todays universal law can break easily tomorrow, check history).
    Your last comment, just open your eyes man.. If you don't wanna see evidence you can do this, like i guess you are not exist and you can't prove this

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  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Irrelevant.

    What you said was a repetition of a MYTH.

    Wrong.
    There are NO historical incidences of a "universal law" breaking.

    There is no evidence.

    I have no idea what you're trying to see, but I do exist and I can prove it.
     
  18. hey___ Registered Member

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    Regarding universal law please go and check Einstein's relativity teories which changes previous Laws.

    And for the last part, you prove me you exist, i promise you i will prove GOD exists

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  19. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I see you don't actually know any real physics.
    1) relativity didn't change (much less break) previous laws, it ADDED to them.
    2) "universal laws" do not break.

    And you're wrong again.
    My existence can be checked and verified. (And that's apart from cogito ergo sum).
    "God's" can't.
     
  20. hey___ Registered Member

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    Could you tell me simplest universal law since you think i don't know any real physics? Or no need more discussions please just prove me you exist, let me know i am not schizophrenic, if you can make it, i believe with your way i can prove God's existance to you.
     
  21. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Since I have no idea what YOU consider to be "simple" then I can't answer that question.
    The fact that you think "universal laws" get broken shows that you don't know physics.

    I gave methods.

    You can't prove it - no one can.
    That's why "god" remains a belief.
     
  22. hey___ Registered Member

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    What methods? You said you can prove it, just do it prove you are exist. I guess you can be also a belief easily, just imagination of my brain, i am behind of my words if you prove you exist i will prove you God exist, as i told in the beginning it is all you want to see proofs or not, like you don't wanna see travelogue as proof..
     
  23. hey___ Registered Member

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    And yes i accepted i donno any real physics but please as expert show me simple easy example of universal law cant be broken, just state the law
     

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