Was moon landing a fake?

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If the moon landing was "fake" the moon rock I have isn't worth anything but where did it come from?

 

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At last! You're catching on!

 

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Quit trolling me with nonsense Arne. I caught onto your crank mistake the first post you made. You have the 'jelly face' about science because you think science doesn't respect your religious beliefs. Science doesn't give a crap about religious belief since it's not in it's domain of applicability to explain. It sticks with stuff that the scientific method has a chance to describe.

 

The fake moon, maybe? Have you done a chemical analysis? Maybe it's petrified green cheese!

Reminds me of this:

Three wise men of Gotham
Thought the Moon was cheese
So they tried to catch it it the river
If you please
But all the little tadpoles sang a merry tune,You'll never catch it
It's the Moon, Moon, Moon!

 

Please watch the video recommended in this thread:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread...It-s-So-Hard-for-Scientists-to-Believe-in-God

 

yes, i know what i said.
how you interpret it is an entirely different matter.

 

Wow. It's as bad here as everywhere else on the Internet of (stupid) Things.

Thanks for the correction.

 

instead of telling me what i said, how about ASKING if it was what i meant.

no need in going around saying how stupid something is until you get all the facts.

 

Brucep, if there is evidence that Arne is a fundamentalist or a creationist then I must have missed it. What are you basing your assessment on?

My reading of him to date is that he is neither.

As to mixing up domains of applicability, this is easily done but, again, do you have examples of him doing it?

 

Touchy, are you? I was referring more to what Arne Saknussem said than your comment.

 

What did I say?

 

Of course the moon landing was real. Think about all that work and planning combined with the trouble of perpetuating that fraud for relatively no benefit and it makes no sense at all. It is illogical. Then you consider the fact that the Russians were already in space at the time and had the ability to track the capsule and it does not even bode consideration. I love conspiracy theories but this one is foolish.

Then consider the fact that over 30 years later and no one is any real rush\interest to land humans on the moon any time soon??? all that tells me that this is just a road to nowhere, it's like a joke.

 

At the outset this thread was about why people seem determined to entertain such crazy conspiracy theories, not to justify it. It has gone off track subsequently.

I feel, myself, that there has been a general anti-science backlash since the starry-eyed idealism of my youth. Science and technology have shown themselves not to be an unmitigated good. Some people have developed a resentment and suspicion about science as a result. The flower power hippies of the 60s clearly felt they needed to reintroduce some mysticism to life. I suppose they were romantics, really. And some people, especially in the US, have developed the view that government is evil, so "they" must be lying to us.

I think it is a mixture of currents such as these that gives modern conspiracy myths their longevity.

 

No, it is slightly less bad.
That's why I am still a member.

 

Thanks, Exchemist.

We are dealing with many different generations then. My generation (70s to around 90s) was not starry eyed, I agree with your points though. The internet is an amazing tool to learn from, and there is also a lot of bad information, which is true for anything. In any event, I tend to consider main stream sources. Then again, I enjoy conspiracy theories and am very well familiar with this one.

One interesting theory is the Stanley Kubrick angle. This is not a sound theory to me. Stanley was an artist.



Exegi monumentum aere perennius,
regalique situ pyramidum altius,
quod non imber edax, non Aquilo impotens
possit diruere aut innumerabilis
annorum series et fuga temporum.
Non omnis moriar, multaque pars mei
vitabit Libitinam. Usque ego postera
crescam laude recens. Dum Capitolium
scandet cum tacita virgine pontifex.
dicar, qua violens obstrepit Aufidus
et qua pauper aquae daunus agrestium
regnavit populorum ex humili potens,
princeps Aoelium carmen ad Italos
deduxisse modos. Sume superbiam
quaesitam meritis et mihi Delphica
lauro cinge volens, Melpomene, comam.

-Horace

Nevertheless, these (some) men gave their lives and they had the technology. You really dont need a fast computer or perhaps not any computer. They had tight machinery and precise co-ordinants.

Be that as it may, to continue.

I dont think we will see much in the way of manned flight to space. It's just too risky...save for perhaps a colony on Mars...which i would love to go to and hereby volunteer for. Aside from colonization, short hops (ways points) is the way to go and these will be from small unmanned craft. The thing is to go further. Satellites to captured data for the downloading of images and dslr movie files etc. Interesting side topic, how far can data travel in space?

But we NEED to be cognizant of "space junk" and the van-allen belt.

 

From what I understand Stanley Kubrick in his 2001:A Space Odyssey got space-view shots of the Earth and Europa (was it?) uncannily correct although there were no space-view shots of those places available at the time. We are so used to seeing such shots now that we often miss the sheer prophecy of Kubrick's work. However, as admirable as his achievement is, I don't think it was any thing more than an intelligent estimation. Within just a few years, months even, such views of Earth would be made widely available. It's sort of like the year before the Wright Brothers took off, no one much would be astonished that heavier-than-air flight would soon be achieved. Even if they couldn't invent the airplane themselves, they could kind of see it coming just around the corner.

So did everyone get that Horace quote in Latin? I sure didn't, but for once it looks like our pal Google Translate has done a fairly decent job:

A monument more lasting than bronze,
the royal pyramids,
that it is not eroding rain, not the powerless north wind
or the countless
years and the flight times.
Not every one will I die, and many part of me
avoid the grave. I shall continue to
fresh with the praise. While Capitol
with the silent virgin.
my labor, which Aufidus
and where water Daunus
ruled out of humble,
chief Aoelium song to Italian
have led. Melpomene
merit, and the Delphi
with laurel wreathe your brow with having a mind to, Melpomene, to the hair of

Well, so-so, but better than I could have done myself.

 

I found a better translation than that. Google is sort of like a three-toothed hill-dweller with one pants leg sometimes..

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Well done, Toad. That's beautiful.

 

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