At the WIKI page in question, it also says....... "This page was last modified on 12 April 2014 at 01:04" Just saying........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_argument#Disputing_the_above_version_of_Einstein.27s_hole_argument This page was last modified on 11 April 2014 at 00:00. Just saying.
A question for dmoe. Dmoe, instead of hanging on Farsight's coat tails, you need to take in the actual facts about SR. The whole theory of SR rests on two postulates:- [1] The laws of physics are the same in all FoR's: [2] In any Inertial FoR, the speed of light "c" is constant, whether by a body at rest, or one in uniform motion From those two postulates was deduced the facts of time dilation, and length contraction. And briefly that sums it up from a layman's position which you and I should really have no qualms about, as it has stood up to all scrutiny for more than a 100 years. To doubt those findings, you must have observational evidence. Does that make it clearer?
one of my favorite ebe's and/or IB's story is technology that came from them and hitler attempting to time travel. got to love that guy, only if you know the actual true story of hitler.
@paddoboy: Even though you didn't mean to post that one, I think SR is a perfect retort to the idea of "timeless time". Except that it isn't. So, what were you trying to say? @krash661 You're at the top of your form here.