My last thread on UFO's

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Trapped, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Oy. I guess that's it for now. You are losing track of your own arguments. I suggest you take a break from posting and reread the last couple of pages and the wiki and organize your thoughts because they have just become a jumble of crackpot-salad.
     
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  3. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, it is possible to replace almost all of the potential lies with confusion/delusion. But even at that he must be lying about being well read on the subject - at least to himself. I don't care to split hairs on how much of the lying is to us and how much is just to himself, then just witnessed by us.
     
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  5. Trapped Banned Banned

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    A bit disingenuous, there was more to that sentence.


    I actually said, ''actually, you can dispute it''... but it would be hard to do so, because the entire congress was involved in receiving calls. To dismiss and prove her claim wrong, would be piss easy. So it is doubtful, she lied.
     
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  7. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Potential lies?

    So that is what you are doing, you are finding things which might be a lie, you don't actually know... and so you are calling me a liar all the time?

    You're just a troll. You're not interested in debating this without ad hominems. Probably to do with the quality of your arguments. What you are doing are classic signs of last resorts.
     
  8. Trapped Banned Banned

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    I remember two of the witnesses, I don't remember the first you speak of. So why don't you just tell me and get to the point? I can't remember every detail. You lot only have to concern yourselves with me, I have about five different posters posting here at a time.
     
  9. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Trapped, this is YOUR thread and these are YOUR arguments we are discussing. YOU must make them clear. We can't do it for you because we are not mind readers. So:

    -Get which incident is which straightened out.
    -Properly match your claims to the incidents they are about.
    -Get evidence and properly match it to the claims/incidents.
    -Post all of that in a coherent, descriptive, sourced post.
     
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  10. Trapped Banned Banned

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    You are intentionally neglecting the fact you lot are trying to prove theories as well, not all of the argument is on me.


    And no... before you even say it, because I have predicted a lot of behaviour in you today, I am not making the alien claim publically at all. Therefore, the extraordinary claims can be ignored. No one is making extraordinary claims, everyone so far has made equal claims in measure, but not in quality.
     
  11. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Test me. Do this one more time, call me a liar one more time, and you will be blocked instantly.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Are you now saying that alien spaceships are NOT a reasonable explanation? If so, good for you! You've become more rational in your decisionmaking.

    Agreed!
     
  13. Trapped Banned Banned

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    What I am saying, is if my threads are continued to be hijacked, I will start this in another thread and make it clear why I am doing so. The questions are getting too personal for my liking and not enough apologies are being dished out. Consider talking to me like a real human being with a point of their own, instead of some scum user here who doesn't have a right to say a word.
     
  14. Trapped Banned Banned

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    And no, I am not immediately concluding there was no ET hypothesis ruled out. To do this, I need to rule out differences between the two alleged events, separated at about ... 30 minutes in our local time. These are the questions I am asking, you lot are asking all the wrong questions, far too concerned about my beliefs. You lot are missing the greater picture here... a real educational jump might happen between posters here, if we actually start using our brains.
     
  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    So if we start using our brains we might become as enlightened as you are on this topic, and see the big picture? That seems like a pretty arrogant position to take, and seems to speak more to your emotional state than any factual information about UFO sightings.

    As a suggestion, perhaps just posting the facts, rather than laments about how other people can't reach your level of enlightenment, would go further towards making your case.

    If you do not like posting here, then perhaps finding another forum would make you happier. This is, after all, a science forum, and science forums are unlikely to take claims about alien UFO's very seriously without real evidence. (And no, you haven't presented any real evidence.)

    I don't think you are a "scum user here who doesn't have a right to say a word." You just like to think that UFO's are really alien spaceships. That's your point of view. I (and several others) have pointed out that the facts do not support your beliefs. That's our point of view. You can discuss if you like. Or, if you would rather not, then don't. But if you go into this with the attitude that "I am going to convince these uneducated, closed minded cretins that I am right and they are wrong!" then you will be disappointed.
     
  16. Trapped Banned Banned

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    You are borderline correct.

    Some of us, know something happening. Others just expect it to happen, because there is no question.
     
  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Then let me respond in kind:

    Most smarter people (especially people here) prefer science fact to science fiction fantasy. The world really isn't like an X-Files episode, or a Stephen Spielberg movie - and hoping/wishing/praying for aliens won't make them real. Open your mind to reality and put away those fantasies, as enticing as they are.
     
  18. LaurieAG Registered Senior Member

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    Check out the 3 kite video's halfway down this page. Some of the UFO people are starting to think about the latest sightings.

    http://www.theufochronicles.com/2012/12/as-high-as-kite-ufos-as-flying.html

     
  19. Trapped Banned Banned

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    There have been similar stunts throughout history. Such a case happened in Avebury, a man attached lights to a toy flying saucer. The prank somewhat backfired, because even though it was to show up witnesses as being unreliable, they actually turned out very reliable, all reporting a flying saucer with lights.

    So keep in mind, when a real event comes about and people are claiming to have seen a mile long space craft, I have to trust them to a degree.
     
  20. Grumpy Curmudgeon of Lucidity Valued Senior Member

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    Trapped

    And everyone at the event swears Chris Angel stuck his whole arm through a guys chest. When whole lots of people are all fooled by a hoax, it doesn't make the hoax any more real, just a more effective illusion. Just like the illusion of a miles wide alien spacecraft created by 4 balloons with road flares attached floating together on the breeze fooled a lot of people. Only the ones who stay fooled after the lights were explained are really fools.

    Grumpy

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  21. Trapped Banned Banned

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    Of all debunking explanations, you have to pick the lamest.
     
  22. river

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    Those that doubt never seem to read anything on the subject

    Richard Dolan would be a good start

    And Donald Keyhoe , 1950's
     
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    And Millenium, you forgot Millenium!

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