God will not return until we admit that we cannot love him just as he cannot love us.

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  1. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    God will not return until we admit that we cannot love him just as he cannot love us.

    That would kill our free will.

    If we collectively admitted that truth, we could create the end times and elect a new God the way Jesus did via reinterpretation of the law.

    St. James said that faith must be shown by works and deeds to be true faith.

    I say that those same conditions apply to love. Love must be shown by works and deeds to be true love. Love must be expressed this way from both parties as reciprocity is a sign of love and is also a high moral tenet. Love to be a true love must be shown somehow and God cannot ruin man’s free will by doing so.

    Do you agree?


    Part two.

    We all have a system of governance that we follow be we believer or atheist. Believers will name their system God non-believers will be (name of political party). We all give the mental tag or name of (Ideal) to whatever God or political system we all follow.

    In terms of moral leadership, even atheists and the weirdest fundamental will have an Ideal in governance that he will follow. We all love our Gods as an Ideal. So to speak.

    If the bible and St. James are correct, not only is it impossible for God to love us, --- it also means that none of us can have a reciprocal relationship with our various beloved Gods, and that means we cannot ever truly love God.

    Do you agree?

    If you agreed, then what are we all going to do about that truth? Are we ready to stop living the lie that we can have a relationship with a God who cannot ever do so?

    If so, should we elect a new and real live God figurehead to love? That is what Jesus said would happen.

    I will have to choose the honest route and admit that this clip is speaking truth and that God has broken his covenant with man and all the Abrahamic based religions. He did so because he had no choice.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

    Jesus knew this and that is why he took the right hand of God. He was to be God’s last taste of sacrificial blood sacrifice. This is how Final Judgement is returned to men and women.
    All we need do is step up and take it as Jesus did.

    Are you ready for this? Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

    Are you ready to name your God, --- “I am”, and mean yourself?

    If so, and a large enough number are, then world peace and prosperity is at hand. More importantly, --- we all gain the personal relationship we crave with God. All you need do is choose now as the end time, do the deeds and works required to unify the rest of the elect, and you are there and so would be God.

    Regards
    DL
     
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  3. VossistArts 3MTA3 Registered Senior Member

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    Isnt it clear, that just like youve done, everyone can construct their own god with their own logic to be perhaps boundlessly variable? For instance, I cant relate with your post after the first 4 words. God will not return. That has no meaning within the framework of my world view. If God means "That from Which All Things Manifest", and I feel pretty sure everyone agrees on that point, then there is no way to conceptualize a scenario where there was existence before God arrived, or that anything that seems to exist could continue to exist were God to somehow separate itself (or leave) from that existence. And then you go on to use the incredibly vague notion of Love as the solvent as if everyone, or even any two, people agree on what Love actually is. The moment you attempt to conceptualize what you are calling God, putting it into words, it becomes false. Even with something as mutually evident as what we call a "tree" is quite simply NOT a tree. It just is, then we call it a "tree". Infinitely more elusive is what youre calling God, which could not fundamentally be any " thing". Were it a thing, like a god is a thing, then like everything it would have had to have come from something else. Its conceivable, perhaps, that this God could be experienced and even shared in some manner, but through words and concepts? Absolutely not.
     
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  5. siledre Registered Senior Member

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    I have faith god exists in some form and that I'm in no position to know what it is to be a god so whatever works for god works for me. It doesn't detract from my life by having faith of a god as opposed to not having faith and finding out when I die I was wrong. on the other hand, it could be that god that doesn't care or even consider us in the grand scheme of things so even if my faith there is a god is correct, it may not matter anyway, but again, doesn't hurt to keep it.
     
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  7. VossistArts 3MTA3 Registered Senior Member

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    you dont need a god to know what is virtuous and non-virtuous and to being committed to living a virtuous life.
     
  8. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I have defined God as Ideal or an ideal. Whatever your ideal idea of what living a virtuous life is, in that sense, for this O P, the God you follow.

    That ideal, yours, could be political or even your own ideas if you think you have some unique vision.

    All end time offers is peace and prosperity based, I think, on simplified laws and local governance. God only knows

    Regards
    DL
     
  9. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like a fear driven love and I do not mean to imply that you sound like what this quote says,. You don't. It is just a reminder to others.

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
    Voltaire

    I am not an atheist but healthy doubt is good.

    Remember that bible God is a prick.

    Regards
    DL
     
  10. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Which I effect further down.

    Regards
    DL
     
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