Isn't it time we got past all this childess BS I'm really , really , really getting tired of discussions coming down to who insult the best etc. Disagreements are just part of the deal with discussions , but this constant , on most threads , insults etc. I think has just got to stop I've been on this site for many years , and I'm fed up with this attitude river By the way , we can be civil Even when others or sites are not We can grow , we need to grow , we should grow beyond base attitude , its a quality of Humanity that can disagree but have respect for another Human
Unfortunately this isn't just a sciforums phenomena (the internets rife with it). we can't roll the internet back about 15 years to get the intellectual discussions that use to occur, instead mass consumerism and commercialism has degraded the internet with "Cargo Culture", people that don't really care for standards as long as they get what "they" want and most of time what they want is to entertain themselves by abusing or belittling people.
It isn't a sciforums phenomenon But that doesn't mean a lower standard should be tolerated on this site , now does it
15 years ago people on Usenet were pining for the good old days, when discussions were more civil, spam wasn't an issue and people on the Net were just plain better. . .
What makes or breaks a site is the moderation "staff." It's very balanced here. No site is free of spam and rudeness, but honestly, it's swiftly dealt with here and makes the experience a good one. I've visited sites where you'd swear all the mods were asleep. :/
Kinda reminds me of driving out there on the highways and surface streets......you meet all kinds of interesting and often dysfunctional people. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
...I heard a statement by a person once that went something like this : paraphrased quote - "People who think that they 'Know It All', give a bad name to "us" few that really do!" - unquote My offspring, who was 10 or 11 at the time, remarked upon hearing it : "Hey, dad, I'll bet he is one of those people who starts a lot of sentences with "I don't think...!" "
I have to admit that I find that whenever intellectuals begin insulting each other it can be pure comedy gold. There have been threads that caused me to laugh/cry and learn all at the same time. One of the best and most sarcastic is right here on this thread.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! You know who you are!Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Discussion forums where civility is not enforced seem to be dying across the Internet. If open obnoxious, antagonistic, arrogant, self serving, disparagement is not dealt with decisively with warnings and bans, there is no way for a discussion to be conducted, even when it is properly presented. The same level of moderation should be applied to enforce the rules that the content in any given sub forum must be appropriate for the sub forum, and if it is not, it should be moved. The quality of moderation is just as important as having appropriate rules and enforcing them consistently to all members across the entire forum. Offensive, off topic, flaming posts should be deleted, either at the discretion of the moderator, or at the request of the thread originator. That does not mean that opposing views, valid criticism, and on topic arguments should be subject to deletion, it means offensive, off topic flames should not be permitted to derail valid discussions of topics that are in the appropriate sub forum. I know that we don't have the level of moderation required to run such a tight ship, and there is no forum business plan in place that would benefit by strict enforcement of the rules.
Well, on Facebook the norm is still somewhat polite and friendly. Instagram..I feel so sorry for Paris Hilton, have you read some of the comments she's getting? Here, sciforums is still a place for stuck up idiots with their heads up their asses not exactly looking for truths, but digging really deep to find the best shit to spit out.
I tend to have a different view on debate and discussion than some, maybe even most. I've never bought into the idea that "civil" discussion equates to pretending that the other side's opinion is equally valid, or that stupid ideas shouldn't be called stupid when they're presented as if they weren't stupid. Political-correctness kills meaningful discussion. And people who are genuinely gross should be told they're genuinely gross. If someone, for example, glorifies a child-murderer, I'm going to tell that person that she's a disgusting human being. And Sciforums will allow that, whereas many sites won't, even though it's the right thing to do. I've had my share of run-ins with the administration here, but for the most part they're fair.
If someone tries to put a label on me that doesn't fit by talking over my head instead of adressiong me directly, I will kill that person in my mind over and over again.
Who the fuck are you Balerion and what is your personal vendetta with me here all about, why don't you just spit it out?
Were you able to overlook the violence because you had considered it yourself? You only live once, Bebes. Don’t let vengeful thoughts consume you. They take up too much time and energy. An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life: Spoiler “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.”It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.” The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf will win?” You might heard the story ends like this: The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.” In the Cherokee world, however, the story ends this way: The old Cherokee simply replied, “If you feed them right, they both win.” and the story goes on: “You see, if I only choose to feed the white wolf, the black one will be hiding around every corner waiting for me to become distracted or weak and jump to get the attention he craves. He will always be angry and always fighting the white wolf. But if I acknowledge him, he is happy and the white wolf is happy and we all win. For the black wolf has many qualities – tenacity, courage, fearlessness, strong-willed and great strategic thinking – that I have need of at times and that the white wolf lacks. But the white wolf has compassion, caring, strength and the ability to recognize what is in the best interest of all. "You see, son, the white wolf needs the black wolf at his side. To feed only one would starve the other and they will become uncontrollable. To feed and care for both means they will serve you well and do nothing that is not a part of something greater, something good, something of life. Feed them both and there will be no more internal struggle for your attention. And when there is no battle inside, you can listen to the voices of deeper knowing that will guide you in choosing what is right in every circumstance. Peace, my son, is the Cherokee mission in life. A man or a woman who has peace inside has everything. A man or a woman who is pulled apart by the war inside him or her has nothing. "How you choose to interact with the opposing forces within you will determine your life. Starve one or the other or guide them both.” I know, sort of sappy, but I liked it. Social humiliation is a major contributor to retaliatory behavior. Control is an important aspect of our well-being. "When a person feels ostracized they feel out of control, and aggressive behavior is one way to restore that control.” "How can it be that such a brief experience, even when being ignored and excluded by strangers with whom the individual will never have any face-to-face interaction, can have such a powerful effect?" he said. "The effect is consistent even though individuals' personalities vary." Ostracism
No,Trooper, I have never considered killing babies myself and I didn't overlook anything, I was shocked. There a big difference between nurturing vengeful thoughts, which I agree is extremely unhealthy, and venting your anger in a fantasy scenario and then let it go. To surpress, ignore and pretend they don't exist is even more unhealthy.
