The FDA cracks down on "jack3d"...a pre workout stimulant. Why?

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I take a pre workout stimulant called jack3d, which its main active ingredient is 1,3 dimethylamylamine. There have been reports of heart attacks etc due to this product. If you take it as suggested, there should be no issues unless u have a medical condition.

So, the FDA cracked down and it was taken off the shelves for a while. I don't believe it had ever been FDA approved. So my question is...for those who understand chemistry well, is this truly harmful to me? It is a caffeine derivative. I weight lift and this stim helps with focus and energy mainly.

If you all agree it is harmful then I will stop taking. But, when the FDA approves drugs like Viagra and the like...I have to wonder what its motive is for pushing to ban this product?

This is the only pre workout stim that has this as an ingredient. It's strong but again, taken correctly..you should have no issues.

Look forward to your thoughts on this and why the FDA got involved?

Thanks!

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Why would anything be needed to get a good workout other than yourself and water? Just try to do a workout without taking anything at all should give you all the natural strength that you'd need. Taking anything to " enhance" yourself seems rather a waste of money to me.

 

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For days I didn't get enough sleep...it's good for focus and that "pump" u need.
I wish I hadn't discovered it.

But my question also why is the FDA involved when they approve drugs that have lots of side effects? This isn't a drug.

So, that's my other question.

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It is a drug. And it has no history of human usage, so it should be banned.

 

Might that be related to taking a stimulant during the day?

 

Other than in this product?

If I had to connect the dots on days I sleep poorly, it would be linked to the days I take this.

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I don't take it all the time ...probably three times per week.

Interestingly, it came back for sale in stores about six months ago. So it's odd.

It had been reported that many high schools ban this for their athletes to play sports because they were failing their drug tests. It's molecular structure resembles meth (this is rumored no conclusive evidence)

If it did, I imagine this wouldn't have been back on the shelves.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

 

If it was a drug produced by a drug company for a specific purpose, then they would have to do extensive tests to find side effects.
With this substance you are your own guinea pig.
The ban is on its sale as a fat burner, or dietary aid, which is only right because those are medical claims.

In April 2013, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned supplement makers that it was illegal to market DMAA as a dietary supplement, and warned consumers of potentially serious health risks associated with DMAA-containing products. (Wiki)

Quite a few amphetamine-like decongestants have been found to cause heart attacks,
especially after long term use.
This one is probably no better or worse than using ephedrine,
which was used as a fat burner before people started getting heart attacks.
A very small fraction of its users, but enough for it to be restricted.

I would advise you not to take it for more than a day, without a break,
and keep to the "recommended" dose.

 

Thanks captain

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I can't help but think ...yeah this is not good for me. I eat healthy...exercise and then I take this stuff. Ha!
But it makes you focus and perform your sport a lot better.
It's true.

It's too good of a product.

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Leads me to a somewhat related question...Why doesn't the FDA approve vitamins?
They don't seem to monitor the nutriceuticals world.

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hmmmm!
your riddles always have truth in them.

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yes

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that must be it.

 

One problem is that by banning things
they chase people onto a new and less tested drug.
This looks to me like a substitute for ephedrine, from the Ephedra herb,
which has been used for thousands of years.
It's killed a few people in that time, but at least we are familiar with it.

Instead of banning stuff, they need to give people more information.

 

@ Fraggle Rock (again)

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Just quickly...no not for weight loss. This product is to improve performance in a sport. I've been a runner/cyclist for a while and turned to weight lifting two years ago. It is primarily designed for weight lifting. I'm lifting heavier now. And this product helps you lift heavier.

Edited/deleted the rest because I was rushing at work. Plus, it sounded vain and I'm not a vain person.

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Anyway. I will try to cut back. I think I should even though its a kick ass product.

Thanks for your feedback. Means a lot.

 

It is a supplement, so it hasn't been regulated as drugs are. I saw a documentary where a young 20s man died supposedly from using it, and his mother has been pushing for regulation and ban. So maybe that is the effect of the case...

 

You have to look at things statistically.
Everything you do entails some risk.
People die mowing lawns, swatting flies, painting emulsion on ceilings.
Riding horses carries a large risk of death.
Mountaineering and motorbiking, even worse.

For some irrational reason, people put drugs in a different category.
When it kills you it is somehow "evil" rather than plain bad luck.
There's never been a war on DIY, but I'm sure it kills more people a year than recreational drug reactions.
My opinion is that people should be given as much information as possible,
and then they should make up their own minds.

 

Kremmen, hi

The story above and another story I think prompted this. There was a story about a few army recruits who took it and one died. They banned it on the nearby base's health store.

Sort of a knee jerk reaction society with a lot.

I use it not everyday. Honestly...I used to take it before work before presentations I had to give lol and it is quite effective.
That's when I knew...ok, you need to stop buying this. (But I didn't stop)

What happens too is you start taking more to get the same desired effect as when u first started taking it. That too could be part of the problem.

I do like it though.

 

Need to take more to get the same effect.
Still taking it at the same frequency despite wishing to reduce intake.
I think you are right to be concerned.
Sounds addictive to me.

Try packing it up for a while.
Just to see.

I hope no-one thinks from my previous post that I am recommending people to take drugs.
I'd be a hypocrite to do that.
I don't smoke, haven't had a drink for months, and Cannabis makes me ill.
I do think, however, that banning substances is counter productive:
worse than useless.

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Aw, why can't I enjoy Cannabis?

 

On the container...it warns to cycle off every few days which I do. But..I do "miss" it during those days.
I think it's very addicting if nothing else...psychologically.

I went off it when they took it off the shelves.
For a few months and I got over my "desire" for it.

But here I am again.

I don't think anyone thinks you're advocating drug use.

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I will say however that I understand how ppl get addicted to drugs.
Something that alters your natural state for the better...you will naturally want more.

I don't do drugs and never have either ...but I have to admit this product alters your natural state. I don't want use the word "high," but you feel...euphoric. Focused.

 

What do you mean you don't do drugs?
Seems to me that you're a Jack addict.

 

You know what I meant lol