Ancient astronaut theory looks highly promising now

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by pluto2, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. river

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    I just know this , UFOs have been around for thousands of years

    The world over
     
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  3. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    You don't know that, you believe that.
     
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  5. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. People are VERY liberal (often foolishly so) in stating what they "know." Just believing or thinking is a LONG way from knowing!
     
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  7. Questfortruth Registered Member

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    The ancient astronaut theory is one riddled with false evidence and wild speculation. BUT it stems from a few very simple facts that cannot be disputed.

    First, AAT believers buy into the who genetic manipulation theory, not only because so many religions claim "gods" made us in their image. Ancient astronaut theorists, also point out the interesting fact that man evoloved almost over night compared to everything else on this planet. So, yes there is no actual evidence but good reason to suspect it to be true. Which is a way of thinking that has lead to all of our most mind altering discoveries.

    The AAT (to me) is based on the fact that almost every civilization has claimed they were created and visited by supernatural beings from the skies, that had what appears to be technology.

    Its like being in a court room where thousands of witnesses from all over the world are pointing at the accused.

    All one has to do is read the Bible (example) and compare the supernatural events to technology and its very clear. Then gain interest, study other world religions, see the big picture and its one of the most simplistic logical theories ever presented.

    It almost comes down to this... Either all these civilizations are joining in on a world wide conspiracy to convince us we were visited/guided/manipulated, OR there is in fact some kind of supernatural creator.
     
  8. Questfortruth Registered Member

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    We must also, ask ourselves if we are products of environmental "brainwashing".

    We must realize that all over the world, we see that peoples opinions and beliefs are molded from birth by their surroundings and influences (family, friends, whats socially normal). No matter how insane they may be, it would seem factual that it is extremely easy to make a child grow up believing what you want it to.

    This is why all peoples have different religions., different scientific beliefs, different laws, different.. well everything, whether it be right or wrong. Logical or illogical.

    Sadly, everything we "know" is handed to us by governments that are constantly caught lying and manipulating their people, there for Should be deemed untrustworthy.

    How can we trust education from a nation that has "In God We Trust" (example) on its currency. With all the scientific information that has been available for years now, I ask; how can we really believe any type of of mainstream "facts' or history?
     
  9. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    No evidence? So your good reason is based on what? Your gullibility? Wishful thinking? Divine Revelation? Twenty million Frenchmen can't be wrong?
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's called observer bias. You want to believe a certain thing, so you create threads of meaning that don't exist. Our evolution, while remarkable, did seem to happen gradually from ancient apes, and we have found several species that seem to chart the development of intelligent upright walking primates.

    The skies have been an interest of many cultures, just because we couldn't go there, it seems out of reach, and so many interesting things happen there. It's not evidence for anything except our creative myth-making tendencies.
     
  11. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    From all that I have read this is false. Do you have evidence for this statement?

    To me the supernatural beings are simply magical beings like something from a dream - no basis in reality.

    Only none of them have actually witnessed anything - they are just believers.

    Raising the dead is technologically possible? Doubt that will ever be possible, a dead body is irrepariable damaged almost imediately upon death. The simplist and most logical explanation is that religion is fantasy.

    It comes down to this - people could not understand all of the amazing things in the world like thunder and rainbows, nor could they understand the terrible things like floods and death so they made up stories and supernatural entities that controlled these things they did not understand. Seems pretty intuitive to me.:shrug:
     
  12. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    So your alternative is to believe hair brained, wild ass, unevidenced conjectures - uh, interesting plan you got there.
     
  13. ForrestDean Registered Senior Member

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    Ahh that's easy. You don't have to if you don't want to. There is definitely nothing wrong with just tossing it aside. Contrary to popular belief, many are very much capable of doing our own research, on many levels. All you have to do is let it go and look elsewhere. It's very simple.
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I recommend the podcast: The Dumbasses Guide to Knowledge. He has a 5 part series debunking Ancient Aliens.
     
  15. kwhilborn Banned Banned

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    I cannot see any reasons to dismiss the ideas of ancient technologies, although if real evidence did exist we would likely only find it on the moon as anything man made would not last a million years.

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    There is a lot of legitimate ancient Astronaut portrayals, but they could just be Science Fiction from their age.

    The Sumerians seemed to be very advanced and they are one of the oldest known civilizations. Their math and Abacus style calculators, and literature is truly astounding. I am not saying they had access to space, but they told tales of people who could access space, and their knowledge of astronomy was replete with accurate descriptions of planets.

    Here is some Mayan Jewels.

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    These are allegedly bugs.... Yet no bug in existence has rear stabilizers?

    How could their Sci Fi be so realistic?

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    and if you still are not convinced.

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    Here is absolute proof.

    The Wheel, The Sail, The Plow. These are all invented by the Sumerians or they at least used them.

    They had justice and art and Poetry and heavy literature.

    Even Astrology although it is deemed ridiculous was in full practice at the time.


    Their Unified theory was based on Sound, and if we were to believe Nikola Teslas friend Walter Russell the Universe is indeed built on Octaves.

    http://www.walter-russell.de/en/Diagramme.php?_id=368&_edit=

    Now this Unified theory has fans, but it is not popular.

    I am just saying that 6000 years ago the Sumerians had a similar Unified Theory. I am not saying they were right.

    Now the Sumerians taught their children that Earth had at one time been split in half by another planet called Nibiru. They spoke of aliens as if they were factual.

    Nobody knows what could have existed before.

    It is certainly a fun idea.

    Anyone interested in ancient technology should look at this Series of videos. The machining evidence is clear in many places, but is ignored by mainstream science.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pf76422Pbk

    it is One and a half hours though so you would need a real interest.

    This actually solves the pyramid riddle.... believe it or not.... lol
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The podcast in my link actually addresses the bird sculptures specifically. Don't forget these people had access to the world's most powerful hallucinogens.
     
  17. Questfortruth Registered Member

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    Like I stated before, this way of thinking has led to all of our greatest discoveries. People like you refused to look through the first telescope because it was black magic.

    I don't particularly believe the AAT...

    At the same time I cannot deny the distinct similarity between world religion, suggests there is something to the AAT

    Its very simple... evidence, and multiple "coincidences" don't exist for no reason.




    - Arguing with a close minded waste of conciousness - useless
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    If you fail to address your doubts with logic and science, it's worse than useless. Please don't use skepticism to support your gullibility. Don't you think that similarities in the world's religions have a more obvious explanation? Like the cross pollination of cultures through trade, or the fact that they were all created by humans with similar hopes and fears? And aren't you overlooking the many differences in them? There is an extremely wide variety of religious practices in the world.
     
  19. Questfortruth Registered Member

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    Kwhillborn... you're wasting time posting that stuff. 90% of them will watch it or even open their mind to it for a second. Thats how humans are.

    People that don't atleast admit the AAT has some relevance simply don't know anything about it. Or they are just too far gone from social brainwashing.

    You can't expect some one that truly believes in God to ever listen to anything like this. You can't expect the majority (which is close minded) to listen either.

    It is a fact that the majority is close minded, wildly ignorant, and very unintelligent. The Majority blindly believe these stories from 100's of different unconnected civilizations all over the world are supernatural beings. So judging by the fact stated, that is incorrect.

    So... its kind of a self choice.. If you think theres a reason all these stories exist and it isn't a giant conspiracy from acnient man then the AAT is the only logical explanation.


    People will never listen to translations of cultures they know nothing about, also the AAT cannot be properly presented with afew paragraphs or even afew pages.
    It requires knowledge of world religion, hours upon hours of study enabling one to see the world wide connection.


    I was raised catholic, went to catholic school but i always felt it was nonsense so I've been an atheist since I can remember. Over the years I've studied world religion, comparing it to christianity and recently made the connection to the AAT.

    And now that we know there are more galaxies than we can count, containing more solar systems than a human could contemplate, its only more relevant and logical.

    In fact, I would say its arrogance if not insanity to say there isn't anything else out there. The fact that we exist on this planet proves that there is life elsewhere in the universe. To reject that is nothing less than insanity.
     
  20. Questfortruth Registered Member

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    And again... the AAT describes very similarly what we do when we encounter underdeveloped peoples.. and I assure you we will do the same when we eventually travel to other stars. Rejecting this, again is choice due to insanity.

    Well insanity in most cases might be a bit harsh, the majority is ignorance and social brainwashing.

    The AAT can only be disputed by ignorance or choice.
     
  21. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    The gullibility and wish to believe of some are too powerful to overcome with any kind of rational thought. Reason is a rare commodity among believers of any stripe.
     
  22. Questfortruth Registered Member

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  23. Questfortruth Registered Member

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    The fact that any of you are even arguing for the idea that we are the only life in the universe shows that your mindset is like that of europe during the dark ages.

    I don't even understand how one could even post on a science forum if they don't think theres anything else in the universe... very strange.

    For the record, I do believe 90-95% of the AAT is nonsense.. its because humans tend to focus on the fantastic instead of the obviously easy answers.

    I simply believe it makes more sense than supernatural beings... I don't see whats so strange about that. I am on sciforums.com right?
     

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