Are the miracles in the Gospels true?

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  1. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, they are. Only the foolish disbelieve the accounts.
     
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  3. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, even though all four gospels have different conflicting details. Certainly it's all true somehow.
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No they aren't true. Why? Same reason the miracles reported by the other some odd 60 gospels are rejected as untrue. Writers back then believed in all sorts of magical stories, especially when they were embellished urban legends passed down by word of mouth for around 40 years. The Jesus legend had plenty of time to accrue many miraculous details by gullible christians. Not one independent account exists that they ever occurred at all.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels
     
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  7. arauca Banned Banned

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    You seams to me you equate 2000 years ago with the present time . Do you know how literate was the world before , were at that time many people able to write ?
    Let me add you some personal experience . I am retired there is no evidence were and when I was born yet I am here . I am trying to tell you not every thing is recorded and not every body have a personal biography even at this time . Now you are been so positive about your knowledge of the past.
     
  8. arauca Banned Banned

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    As I said the Holocausts ended in 1945 . The Jews from Europa started to flock to Palestine in 1946-47 1948 was formed an independent Nation.
     
  9. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    Granted there are "stories" passed down. But there were amazing things that had happened.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Do you believe everything you read?
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's possible for written stories to be true, it's also possible for them to be fiction. The fact that you exist is irrelevant to the point.
     
  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    As I said, countries form all the time. It's a normal part of human culture. They often form along religious lines too. The Mormons went and occupied a large part of Utah.
     
  13. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    We would not call foolish the people who refuse to be fooled.
     
  14. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Something entirely fictitious.
     
  15. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    God can act not according to natural laws, because he is the law-maker.
     
  16. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus can transform water into wine,
    Science does not deny this possibility,
    because everything is made of atom.
     
  17. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    There is more to it than that. It shows what could be possible someday. Make good wine from water sounds like a real bonus.
     
  18. Balerion Banned Banned

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    What do atoms have to do with it?

    And suppose Jesus did make water into wine "because everything is made of atom." That would mean there was nothing miraculous whatsoever about his feat, reducing it to a mere parlor trick. Is that how you picture your savior? As a Roman-era Criss Angel?
     
  19. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Can you re-arrange the water molecules into wine molecules?
    If Jesus can do that, he must be God.
     
  20. Balerion Banned Banned

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    How so?
     
  21. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    I just assume what the bible says is true,
    water became wine.
    Jesus, did it with a command.
    Possibly he has power above natural law.
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    There is no good reason to assume that.
     
  23. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    Technically wine contains water already. So Jesus just added some instant mix to give it a wine flavor.
     

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