The atrocities of Christianity

Oh yeah, that's human nature. People instinctively like the feeling of belonging to something, of feeling solidarity with it. And that solidarity is often won by standing shoulder-to-shoulder in opposition to something else.

It doesn't always matter a whole lot what cause or doctrine people are rallying around. It might be something as insignificant as a sports team.

I think that in history religion has often represented that rallying point, simply because religion typically embodies and represents whatever a culture believes is highest and best.

Again, I agree with you. I don't like the feeling of being forced by discussion-board social-pressure to choose a side, and then to battle mindlessly and incessantly with the hated infidel outsiders. Any suggestion of personal ambiguity, that you might not think that your own side is 100% on the side of the angels, can be dangerous socially. It's apt to be interpreted as disloyalty, and can get you flamed. (In street gangs, it gets you killed.)

 

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That really is the question, isn't it? How much of ones wealth and creature comforts can one retain and still go to heaven? In the other thread, the NDE thread, there is the suggestion that a lot of people go to heaven. Even athiests. In a near death experience, you get a 2 minute preview of what awaits you on the other side. At least that's how I look at it. Even if I can't give up my creature comforts, I would still like to do what I can to bring some good into this world.

On that note, if atheists find some sense of comfort, or at least a sense of certainty about the lack of hard scientific evidence, then maybe I should just let it be and move on to another discussion. Does this battle need to be fought? It's not a slam dunk for atheists or theists, it's not a slam dunk for either side.

 

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Gnostic's back in Alexandra's time, the city in Egypt , thought that Christianity was a atrocity in and of its self in the first place

 

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No, I don't think you do get it. Jesus was not talking about how you can't take your possessions with you. He was saying that here on this earth, in this world, people are too attached to material things. So he told the rich man to go sell it all now, not to wait until he was near death. So all Christians should ask themselves if they could sell everything they have and give the money to the poor. It is a core idea in Christianity. Another thing Jesus told people was that they should be able to leave their friends, wife, and children. He said that he was more important to them than any of those people. So all Christians should ask themselves if they could do that. Abandon their families, and friends to be with Jesus. To be a good Christian, nothing should come between you can Jesus. That if they had to choose between Jesus or the people they love, then they should choose Jesus.

This is why many people consider Christianity at the time of Jesus, to have been a cult. Christianity is not primarily about doing good acts, it is primarily about Jesus. You have to accept him as your Lord and savior or you can't get into heaven. That is supposedly what he said.

 

Forget I even said that. Christianity is rooted is Christ, it's rooted it charity, love and goodness. Atheist is valueless, worthless, it helps nobody. It's fact atheist was a doctrine of communism. I would strongly discourage others from embracing atheism.

 

No, it's not "fact" at all, Mazulu. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in God and it's been around for thousands of years. Some of the ancient philosophers were well known atheists.

You believe it is valueless only because you see a certain value in your own beliefs. But to claim other beliefs have no value is clearly biased. As you are not an atheist- one who lacks belief in the divine, you do not see the value we place in it, in knowing our place in the cosmos and what we can do.
And... as above- you have some misconceptions about it. You're very closed minded when it comes to this topic. And to be blunt, I find it a shame. You have a lot of potential to expand your mind. That doesn't mean 'be an atheist'- it simply means understand more than what you do currently.

This post of yours responded to where you'd neglected part of your own faith. Right? It's not difficult to get carried away and do that. But it does demonstrate that you can neglect what you could be trying to understand. You don't like it when others are dismissive of your beliefs, after-all.

 

That is not really true. A person can supposedly be a horrible person all of their life and accept Jesus only at the end and still go to heaven. The bible gives examples. On the other hand, a person can be charitable, loving and full of goodness and if they do not accept Christ then they will go to hell (or some other place not heaven). So the whole "rooted in goodness" thing is not exactly true. The one and only thing that is absolutely required in Christianity is accepting Jesus as Lord and savior, and loving him more than anything person or thing. Sounds kind of freaky doesn't it.

 

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Chuckle! Good video.

 

If you are content with worldly things, with provables, then so be it. Live free. But for me, worldly things are not enough. I like it when spirit flows through me. I can feel it even if you can't, even if you think it's a fairy tale. It's not unlike the scientific community to dismiss as fairy tales what they do not perceive; the quantum wave-function is proof of this. You can't prove that the wave-function represents a real phenomena of nature. So you shrug and just dismiss it as "unreality". I can see that if the wave-function describes a real phenomena of nature, then it describes something ghostly and spirit-like. If the wave-function represents a real phenomena, then science can only resolve the tip of the iceberg.

I don't fault you for not seeing it. When you try to prove it, it collapses it. Just let it flow through you.

 

As it is called a theory, it clearly has not been dismissed, the big bang theory nor evolution theory have been dismissed either. When it becomes a theory, that is the best it can become.

It is nonsensical to try to prove a negative, it is nonsensical to try to prove a god.
Therefore the onus is on the one making a positive claim; I.E. you.
You have the burden, to prove your beliefs are not fairy tales.

And how do you let the nonexistent/unproven flow through you, Does it work like radio waves or sound waves or magnetism, however those are proven. PLease do explain how! Thank You!

 

I have a better idea. I'll just let you argue with God in the afterlife. See ya!

Life is too short to spend it with God's firewood.

 

Lol! Nutjobs abound!

There's those lovely christian virtues. You Christians are so sweet.