Is Islam a good religion?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Saint, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    meh
    Even Hollywood is capable of analyzing the conflict in the middle east as a consequence of the fall out from the cold war in the 80's
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  3. Balerion Banned Banned

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    In the sense that destabilizing Afghanistan allowed religious extremists to take root, sure.
     
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  5. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Given that the region was religious before extensive political/economical fiddling by international powers (who, ironically, during the era employed and supported individuals you could easily classify as extremist) what other sort of demograph of the region would you expect to raise the gauntlet or to be on the paybooks of the big players of the cold war?

    Used camel salesmen?

    Or are you trying to say that the phenomena of extremists gaining influence on the domestic front when everything is literally shot to pieces is simply an issue exclusive to religious communities?
     
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  7. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Do theists preach because they feel insecure?
    Do theists feel preach because they feel threatened by non-theists?
     
  8. Balerion Banned Banned

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    I'm not sure I understand the grammar of the question. Are you suggesting that because the country is religious, a successful revolution could only result in a fundamentalist government taking over?

    Never said that. Don't know where you'd get that idea.
     
  9. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    sure, why not
    I'm sure if you look hard enough you can also find a theist who will sell you heroin too
     
  10. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Do you preach because you feel insecure?
    Do you preach because you feel threatened by non-theists?
     
  11. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Indiana- not India.
    Read:
     
  12. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    In my experience, preaching tends to make one secure ... since the moments one ventures in a manner one is not secure, it goes badly. IOW one goes forward on subjects one is confident on .... so there are certainly many subjects I would feel insecure to preach on (Probably a minimal chance of ever encountering those on forums like this)

    As for non-theists, if they are in a position to display severe animosity or threaten me, I think that tends to make me cautious more than anything else. Preaching to an angry person is like arguing with a drunk.
     
  13. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    But you believe you are right, and that's it?
     
  14. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Its more that I am undergoing a constant process of understanding the depth of the subject and the extent of my limitations
     
  15. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Lol.

    And we are what? Your experimental rabbits?


    And how can you say that??

    How can you be a member of a religious organization and still suggest that you don't have perfect knowledge of God?
     
  16. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Stop trying to dodge the point with facts.
     
  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    I believe experimental rabbits would be more well behaved



    as mentioned, by coming to know the depth of the subject and my limitations.
    Kind of like someone can point to the direction of the north pole. Another can get a more precise direction with a compass. Another can also cross reference it with a map and distance and another with satellite imagery and yet another with direct communication with one who is already there.

    All of them have perfect knowledge, but the depth of their knowledge and capacity intensifies to reveal one as more perfect than another

    Did I suggest I was pointing to the south east or something?
     
  18. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    You believe heaven isn't a "community of the sedated", but we here should be?


    By "perfect," I mean 'complete, comprehensive.'

    How can you be a member of a religious organization and still suggest that you don't have perfect - ie. complete, comprehensive - knowledge of God?
     
  19. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    I am saying that given that revolution is a cultural term, why on earth would you expect a revolution not to draw strongly on the cultural strong points of the region?



    So (i will do this in point form so you don't have problems with the grammar)

    1/ if revolution is often lead or throws extremists to the fore,

    2/ and if revolution intensifies the cultural aspects of a region,

    P/ why suggest international fall out from the cold war in the middle east wouldn't be likely to involve personalities with a strong vocal religious element?

    I mean, geez, I imagine even purchasing a used camel in the region has a religious slant, much less engineering a revolution of any sort.

    :shrug:
     
  20. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    sounds like a vain hope ....




    One can know enough to categorize and analyze a path of progress or establish the goal or whatever but if you play "comprehensive" up in the manner that I think you are, not even god has that knowledge (unlimited expanding qualities that compete with each other in greatness etc etc)
     
  21. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, another example of you "undergoing a constant process of understanding the depth of the subject and the extent of your limitations."

    If you'd radiate with enlightenment, you'd surely find us more amenable to your desires.


    I see no other sane way for an adult to join a religion, but precisely due to having perfect, comprehensive knowledge of God.
     
  22. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    I did not dodge any points- I addressed them all completely and clearly in spite of you pretending that I did not.

    If you actually honestly believe I dodged a point, re-iterate it so I know what it is you're saying I missed.
     
  23. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    understanding that the material world doesn't offer very many sedate communities is pretty elementary ...




    yes, but to what end?
     

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