Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.

Satan being in charge is more than enough punishment for the population of Hell.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc

Better to shovel coal in hell than to spend eternity in heaven watching friends, neighbors and our children in torture and flame forever.
Only a sick mind would conceive of such a situation or wish it upon anyone. That is why God would not do such because then, heaven would be hell.
If those in heaven did not go insane then they could not have once been human or good.

You should think of hell just a bit and recognize that God would not create such an immoral construct. Lose your barbaric tribal mentality. We are in 2012, not 112.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9FKn4rKXEY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpJ8PGT2yY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaL7CkQaQpU&feature=related

Regards
DL

 

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Then watch Satan you sick fuck. Those people rape and murder. Satan lets them go free in society having the power to stop them as an attack against love so he may get what he wants.

So we give him what he wants; for all eternity. He wins, rapist lose. Better than scorching Satan's people once and for all, Satan may scorch them forever and ever. Good punishment.

 

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Damn God! He should have continued taking Prozac.

 

This completely evades answering why YOU make literalist arguments. If it is only an appeal to ridicule the it is a fallacious argument.

 

Abide by the natural order of things. Just let me be in charge, from there I'll dub all the most able people, and sort good from evil. I'll take the good people, and the rest go away.

 

If I am to argue with them, I have to try using their own word against them for the best impact.

Regards
DL

 

As it has been pointed out to you before, where exactly on SciForums do you expect to find these sorts of people? Your arguments are simply clumsy, ineffective, and unengaging.

 

And you bore me.

Regards
DL

 

that is my argument, for if it was absolute, we would not have a choice but to believe in his existence...we would not have free will (or at least we would delude ourselves into thinking we did not have free will..eg..God exists therefore we HAVE to do what he says..)

i still argue he is not condemning us..are you condemning your kids when you tell them not to do something or they will get hurt?
he is warning us of the consequences..
and if they do it and they get hurt is it your fault, or IOW did you hurt them or did they hurt themselves?

did you blame your parents for you getting hurt when they told you you would if you did that particular thing?

 

See above.

Regards
DL

 

et al,

OK, I'm lost here.

How has the topic question evolved?

v/r
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Logic =/= Christianity

 

any topic that involves God usually devolves into arguments of existence and responsibility..

 

right..hence my statement about us deluding ourselves..look at how many ppl argue a literal bible..

the very young feel the same way..just because the parents cannot explain all the why's about why a child should not do a particular thing does not lessen the danger..and even if they could explain, some children would just argue with it anyway..

so you are arguing that God should take away any opportunity for us to learn from our own mistakes?
would you lock up everything in your house that would pose a risk to your children or would you teach them to be responsible for their own actions?

no matter how much you would try to keep harm away from your children, they would find ways to harm themselves..we are stupid like that as a species..

 

Apparently that fruit from the tree of knowledge wasn't all that effective...

 

There is a difference between responsible action and negligence. God shows negligence.

Regards
DL

 

that is a different can of worms..

that fruit only lets us know good and evil...good can still hurt..

 

Show an example please.

Regards
DL

 

an example of what? that good can hurt? have you ever been spanked?