Why does the West tolerate Israeli crimes?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by RedStar, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    only to people like you who believe that it we can't change anything just have to accept it. its not going to happen because the will isn't there not because the cost is to great. unless your saying that in case of an invasion the Israelis would just start killing the palestinians left and right
     
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  3. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    No PJ, Israel is a nuclear state that would be willing to fight to the last man. The only nations strong enough to take them on would be the US, UK or another western nation and I'm telling you that is not going to happen. Even WW2 wasn't fought because of Nazi abuses towards its victims, they waged war because Germany became a threat to every other nation. No one is going to go and fight Israel's for Palestinians, its a fantasy on your part. Go and make a poll if you like and see how it turns out. Just ask how many people think the world would be willing to go to war with Israel in order to free Palestinian land and see what they say.

    Yes not only would the Palestinian population would be devastated (can't wage a war with Israel without hitting the territories just go and look at the map) but it would be devastating because Israeli's would fight to the last man and use their sophisticated weaponry which includes nuclear arms. So if you want to fight a war in which both israelis and palestinians populations are devastated then go right ahead. Also if Palestinians entered the fray they would be decimated.
     
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  5. RedStar The Comrade! Registered Senior Member

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    More unbacked garbage. This is off topic, too. Go to the USSR thread in the History section if you want to discuss the Soviet Union.
     
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  7. RedStar The Comrade! Registered Senior Member

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    This is why we need a nuclear Iran.

    If Israel has the right to have nukes, so does literally everybody and anybody else.
     
  8. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    That's a totally different topic. You can make a new thread about that if you like.
     
  9. RedStar The Comrade! Registered Senior Member

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    Nah, it's on topic.
     
  10. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    No its not. Iran's rights to nukes has nothing to do with this topic. Go and start a thread on how they should have nukes because others have nukes.
     
  11. RedStar The Comrade! Registered Senior Member

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    It's a reaction to Israel, and this topic is about discussing Israeli crimes.
     
  12. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    According to Iran it has nothing to do with Israel it has to do with their energy needs. But again this is off topic.


    Iran's present electrical requirements are far larger than had been predicted. With an annual growth of 6 percent to 8 percent in demand for electricity and a population estimated to reach 100 million by 2025, Iran cannot possibly rely exclusively on oil and gas. The aging oil industry, denied substantial foreign investment largely because of American sanctions, has not been able even to reach the pre-revolution production level of 5.5 million barrels per day. Of Iran's 60 major oil fields, 57 need major repairs, upgrading and repressurizing, which would require $40 billion over 15 years. Iran's current production level of 3.5 million barrels per day is increasingly geared toward domestic consumption, which has grown by more than 280 percent since 1979. If this trend continues, Iran will become a net oil importer by 2010, a catastrophe for a country that relies on oil for 80 percent of its foreign currency and 45 percent of its annual budget.

    http://nytimes.com/2003/10/14/opinion/14iht-edsahimi_ed3_.html


    In short Iran really really does need nuclear power to meet its energy needs.
     
  13. RedStar The Comrade! Registered Senior Member

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    I agree that they also need nuclear power (or something else) too.
     
  14. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Anyone who advocates war is only seeking the destruction of the Palestinian people. But its typical for Americans to talk about war willy-nilly, they rarely get to see it up close. Americans are always killing those they claim to want to save.
     
  15. RedStar The Comrade! Registered Senior Member

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    Agreed. Good thing I'm Russian. Well, I live in America, but not of American descent =)
     
  16. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Then you're even worse as any Chechen or Afghan would readily tell you.
     
  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    most people wouldn't most people are like you cowardly. if people like you got your way. all european jews would be dead, woman couldn't vote, black people would be slaves, and the us wouldn't be a country. you just can't seem to get it through your empty little head that just because something is difficult to accomplish is not a reason not to try.

    I have my doubts that Israel would use nukes inside of palastine. they want the land more than anything else. and the palestinians wouldn't enter the fray. they would more or less do what they did in the Israeli war of "independence" keep their heads down and pray to god they would be to harmed.

    but you know I really don't give a fuck what you think because you care about doing the easy thing and not any sort of belief that people should do good. You can be all high and mighty and snide but at the end of the day you will always be the one sitting there saying people should get away with the most heinious of crimes just because. you say well this is difficult so we shouldn't even think about how to see if we can make it come to pass. I hope to god no despots take over where you live. i fear for your nieghbors.
     
  18. RedStar The Comrade! Registered Senior Member

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    Nope, I don't support that, and Chechen separatism was only allowed to become the problem it is now after the USSR dissolved (another reason the USSR was better) but if you want to discuss that I have a thread in history.
     
  19. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    @PJ

    Why PJ are you going to get on your tonka truck and go and fight on the battlefield? You big bad brave warrior you PJ. LOL!

    I'm sure mummy will give you a pot to put on your head.:roflmao:
     
  20. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Whatever. I told you it was off topic.
     
  21. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    no it isn't
     
  22. RedStar The Comrade! Registered Senior Member

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    You said my comment about Iran was off topic.
     
  23. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    I have seen war up close... And, I'm American.

    Willy-nilly? Really? You think we as a nation feel that way? I whole heartedly disagree.
     

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