Funny. When we pointed out Bush's low approval numbers, you guys said polls don't matter. Anyway Rasmussen is a biased polling service.
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That's still including the biased Rasmussen polls, which are the only ones showing Romney with a significant lead. Exclude that one, and you get Obama ~47.5% vs. Romney ~44.5%. Meanwhile, people who are willing to put their money where their mouths are - the intrade.com traders - have the odds of a Romney victory at 36%. But, whatever. If it makes people feel better to pretend that Romney has a real shot, then I guess that's what they're going to do (until November anyway). I just don't see how he has a chance, absent some kind of major surprise.
Indeed, and as more and more comes out about Romney's past along with Romney's continued Etch a Sketch moments, a Romney victory this fall becomes increasingly challenging. How many people do you know who led an attack characterized by participants as vicious against a fellow student, cut off his hair and have absolutely no memory of the event? Is it Romney has no memory of the event because there were so many of them, it is hard to remember this one particular event? Is it because Romney has no empathy, therefore this kind of thing is not worthy of memory - the psychopath explanation? Or is it because Romney is just flat out lying again? http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2012/05/why_the_romney_bully_story_mat.html "The "dumb thing" in question was an incident in which he and his friends pinned down a misfit kid who was presumed to be gay. As the boy cried, Romney cut off his hair. Romney's fellow bullies told the Washington Post that the "vicious" attack on a classmate considered "easy pickins" has haunted them ever since. Romney says he doesn't remember it." - Carly Rothman/The Star-Ledger
Pathetic. Reaching back 50 years to a high school prank? Is that the best you can do? The late Mr Laubner's family says the story is factually incorrect and that he would be furious about it being released "to further a political agenda" were he still alive. Meanwhile, this disturbing report about Obama pushing a little girl in grade school has come to light.
A couple of things Mad, first how about using credible sources sometime in the near future? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Examiner.com#Criticism Examiner.com like most right wing sources is not known for getting its facts straight. Two, Examiner.com does not claim that the family denied the event occurred. It said his sister did not recall the event. There is a difference. Given that this occurred at a boarding school, I don't find that hard to believe. And that is NOT a denial that the reported event did not occur as you have claimed here.
While Romney claims to have amnesia regarding his actions as a young adult, his cohorts do not. Romney's accomplices are the ones who have independently recalled and reported this incident before credible sources. Each participant was interviewed separately, and each recalled the same version of the story independently. You want to call this a prank? Understandably you want to down play this horrendous act because you are pushing an ideology. But hunting down, tormenting a fellow student to the point of tears and cutting off his hair is not a prank. It is bullying. Romney was not in grade school. He was in high school, a young adult. Three, this goes to another, bigger and more current issue of moral turpitude. An event like this, something that has tormented Romney's fellow perps for decades does not seem to bother Romney, if we are to believe Romney's explanation. Either this was a common event for Romney and not worth his memory or he is lying and doesn't have the backbone to own his actions. This explanation would fit nicely with other recent events (e.g. Romney's inability to correct a supporters accusation that President Obama is a traitor). If Romney is the leader he claims he is, how about manning up and showing some moral backbone? How about taking responsibility for his actions rather than this "if I did that, then I apologize"? Someone should tell Romney honesty is the best policy. How about Romney showing some moral backbone? How about Romney playing the honesty card for once? Do we want a man who appears to have no moral compass with his finger on the nation's nuclear button? I think not. I hope not! As for the counter claim about President Obama's grade school days, that was not an act of bullying. It was old news, a childhood dispute that President Obama recalled about his youth and published in his book. Every childhood dispute is not an act of violence or an act of bullying. Perhaps you guys don't know what bullying is and is not.
Perhaps an update is in order. The original Washington Post piece might have supported that statement: But the Washington Post has since corrected that error: Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...y-hit-piece-without-notifying-r#ixzz1uhswJrpZSo he's been troubled for weeks, not decades. And he wasn't a "fellow perp". He wasn't even there. I can't wait for the next breaking story. Perhaps this will help: Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! http://www.amazon.com/Reprint-1965-Yearbook-Cranbrook-Bloomfield/dp/B004322AIG
Bluster much? Wait, I thought that sort of tactic was supposed to be "pathetic?" But it seems that nobody has disputed the statements given by five (5) actual members of Romney's gay-bashing mob, upon which the story in question is based. Nor has Romney come out and denied any of the factual elements of the story, for that matter.
Seriously? You can't recognize that a reference to young "Barry" Obama pushing a girl in grade school that occurs right after I described investigations into Romney's behavior in high school as pathetic is supposed to be illustrative of the absurdity of this entire line of inquiry? Give me a break.
I think I can recall pushing a girl some time in my childhood, but I never held someone down who I thought was girly and cut their hair off. That seems to be a significant difference in degree of violence.
And you can't recognize the qualitative difference between a grade school kid pushing a girl and an 18 year old man bullying a young man he presumed to be gay (or perhaps simply too "effeminate")--an action for which he's demonstrated NO remorse? If not a "gay-bashing mob," what exactly would be your preferred descriptor?
Indeed I cannot, because it's no such thing. It's a transparently false equivocation, even if one is charitable to read it the way you demand. But you should be aware that you personally, and your faction more generally, has long since forfeited any reasonable presumption that you aren't the most craven of hypocrits. There is no reason for anyone to twist themselves into any pretzels to infer some kind of sarcastic object lesson from inconsistencies between your statements. The default assumption is that you are brazen hypocrits about presidential attack politics, not that you are principled and consistent. Heck, even if we were to extend to you, personally, the benefit of the doubt on this one, the comments section of the link you provided there clearly shows that the conservative movement generally does not merit any such presumption. No shortage of gleeful embrace of the charges you dismiss as ridiculous, there. Meanwhile, it's pretty delicious to watch GOP mouthpieces try to pull some "high ground" tactics like this. You lot have no credibility as "above" this kind of stuff, and one wonders how stupid you'd have to imagine your audience is to even try it. You should have thought of these implications before you climbed in the gutter - now you're covered in slime. No. Mitt Romney, as an adult, planned and led a vicious gang attack against a fellow student to punish him for his perceived gender deviance. They carried this out by physically assaulting him, and disfiguring his appearance, in order to publicly mark him as a victim of conformist retaliation. That is textbook gay bashing, and that's why both yourself and candidate Romney have such a visible, selfish interest in minimizing such or changing the subject. Not that anyone is surprised that y'all would stick up for oppression of gay people, but you can't actually think that the rest of us are simply going to give you a free pass on that, can you? If you don't like the response you're generating, I'd recommend staying out of this thread. You certainly aren't going to cow anyone into endorsing your self-serving redefinition of the issue. This issue is a loser for you, so the best you can hope to do is just concede and retreat. The more energy you put in here, the more prominent and long-lived this wedge is going to be.
We're also being asked to compare the planned, coordinated actions of a high school senior (Romney was 18 at the time - old enough to vote or be tried as an adult or serve in the military, etc.) to a playground tiff. And then there's the fact that Obama has owned up to what he did - the source of the story is his memoirs - and learned from it. While Romney continues to minimize and deny. Basically, we're comparing a minor, normal incident (who hasn't experienced something like what Obama describes during their school days?) to a coordinated gang assault designed to humiliate a non-conformist. If Romney had gone to grade school with Obama, he'd have been one of the little shits who ganged up on Obama for befriending an unpopular girl. Conversely, can anyone imagine Obama participating in Romney's "Smear the Queer" attack?
Well, if the American people see it that way, surely the "gay bashing" Mr Romney would be dropping in the polls...... Wait, the latest poll show Mr Romney ahead of President Obama and he is now even beating the president among women. PS. It's a New York Times CBS Poll PSS. Here's a funny quote from president Obama that illustrates the regional polarization of the electorate: “Especially when I come to New York, sometimes people go around and say, ‘I don't know anybody who is not supporting you, Barack.’ I say, ‘You live in Manhattan, man.’” -- President Obama.Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...mong-dems-about-obamas-chances/#ixzz1uxRoqCD4I, on the other hand, don't know anyone who is supporting the president
