Why the US has not been back to the moon?

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Mind Over Matter, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    I think this questions been answered rationally, so where can this thread go except into the realms of the ridiculous.
    I came across these explanations regarding the moon, just to clarify I don't personally hold these beliefs.


    "Mankind is an alien controlled experiment. All religions were created by the aliens to give us a set of rules and regulations to live by so that we wouldn't hurt ourselves.

    The secret government knows about this experiment but is hiding it from us.

    This experiment has something to do with the soul. The aliens refer to us as containers. There is a cube on the Moon with an antenna. The antenna sends and receives souls.

    If someone dies an unscheduled death the antenna doesn't pick up their soul and the resulting energy remains on Earth as a ghost.

    When there is a major disaster like 911 the aliens send down giant soul collectors to recover the souls.

    Increase in homosexuality is caused by the cube placing male souls in female bodies and vice versa. This is either by design or there is a fault with the cube.

    Mariners are called 'lost souls' because if you die underwater the aliens can't retrieve the soul through water of any depth.

    There are 38 levels above top secret. The top level is Majestic 12. The US President does not hold the highest level of secrecy.

    Our Moon was towed here and placed in orbit around the Earth by a very large machine. There was a time in the recorded history of man when the Earth had no Moon, and also a time when the Earth had two Moons.

    The Moon has an atmosphere which contains clouds.

    The Moon does not revolve which proves it is artificial.

    The US will not go back to the Moon. Any other country trying to get to the Moon will fail.

    US astronauts went to the Moon, saw all the alien machinery and structures and were told to keep silent about it by NASA.

    Some of the film footage of the Apollo Moon landings were faked.

    John Lear disagrees with Richard C. Hoagland's idea that some secret group is tampering with signals to the Mars rovers. He says it is NASA itself that is doing the tampering.

    NASA knows that Venus is a normal planet just like Earth. Venus has beings that are similar to us.

    We already have bases on the Moon and Mars but for anyone to go there it is a one way trip because they can't risk anyone coming back and revealing this information.

    NASA knows there are spaceships in the rings of Saturn.

    If mankind gets too close to discovering the experiment it will be cancelled and started all over again. A sort of cleansing that happens on Earth every 25,000 years.

    There are two forms of gravity. Gravity A works on an atomic scale. Gravity B is the type that holds us on the Earth and holds the Earth in orbit around the Sun.

    Gravity is instantaneous. We use a gravity phone to talk to the grey aliens who live 1,000 light years away.

    Over 1,500 alien abductions occur each day in the US.

    The Yellow Book is a government record of all alien crash retrievals."
     
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  3. keith1 Guest

    There's always enough funds available for a directional investment worthy of return on that investment.

    There are individuals alive today who have the funds equivalent to whole countries available to them. There are individual people who would like to think they are close to mimicking those same funds procurement levels. It's almost a quest. (How do you say in latin, "a needed outcome or request"...opus exitus?...hortari ad acquirere? Who cares but it is to show an old effort, understandable by all).

    There is enough hydrocarbons in the outer solar system moons to drop the price of oil substantially. Those interests involved will not allow such an event to occur in their lifetime. We are deep into a human growth period that requires extreme control by the most wealthy, if they are to maintain the profit levels they have become used to achieving. That control level requires the controlling of the U.S. government philosophy of public directives.
    Only the free public can and will take us to where we want to be. The wealthy are fixated, therefore, undesirable by a free public directive. We who are not fixated, demand otherwise.
     
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  5. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    ? Have you actually read any of the other posts in this thread? Explain to me exactly how oil that costs 1000x more to get will bring costs down.
     
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  7. Epictetus here & now Registered Senior Member

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    Return to the Moon!? What's there? Better go to the Sun. Sure, it's awfully hot. That's why you plan it so the rocket ship lands at night! :shh:
     
  8. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    OF COURSE! It's so obvious why didn't I see it before!
     
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Right. So now we just have to go there, harvest them and bring them back for less than 50 cents a pound. How hard can that be?
     
  10. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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  12. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    We can see the place where we landed on the moon with telescopes from earth, confirmed by other countries. How do you explain that away?????
     
  13. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    I always thought that even the Hubble didn't have the resolution to make out the landing sites. Could you please link to some info on that?

    Anyway, pictures are fakeable so they aren't proof as they may be fake.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY

    We may read something has been confirmed by other countries but the press is controlled.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4731597&postcount=1090

    We read lies all the time and it's possible to make pacts with other countries. This also doesn't make the clear hoax evidence go away.

    What do you think of Jay Windley's response to the issue I asked him to address?

    http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=8135606&postcount=7907
    http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=8144391&postcount=7990

    I think he totally destroyed his credibility.
     
  14. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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  15. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    Just google search it, the pictures are all over the place.
     
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  17. keith1 Guest

    My example to illustrate a future trend which will shape the present. The level of wealth available to fewer people who are by virtue of that wealth, prone to be obsessively driven, thereby vulnerable to incompetent action...or inaction.

    Space is the future direction of growth, with out a doubt... but there seems a greater reluctance by the wealthy to invest, the same investment climate that propelled them to the heights of horrendous wealth in the first place.
     
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  18. keith1 Guest

    Read post #56.
     
  19. keith1 Guest

    Unfortunately, the Moon is less "deadly rock", and the problem is more to the impediment of it being covered with deep fine-powder dust materials.

    This dust (search: "moon dust") was a vexing problem for the Apollo landing crew, equipment, and is a stumbling block to any viable Moon surface colonizing strategies.

    (So you see, I am reading your posts. I'm just not getting excited in them).
     
  20. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    So... it's a giant rock with some dust (lunar regolith btw created by cosmic rays and solar radiation breaking up, you guessed it ROCK) on it (the earth is also a giant rock)? Way to deflect from the actual discussion. Your grasp of economics is obviously non-existant if you think we are going to moon in any real way for anything anytime soon.
     
  21. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    Why would anyone invest in loosing money? Might as well burn it, at least it will keep you warm.
     
  22. keith1 Guest

    When you say we, don't include me. I wouldn't associate myself with someone who isn't thinking this one out.

    After all, the Chinese are planning a manned flight there. What do they know (that you don't) about future sound economics and spaceflight?

    Get some scope, beli.
     
  23. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    Of course it doesn't include you, you are obviously incapable of thinking about this in any logical way. You think we should still go there just because it's there and we can. Never mind that we are 20 trillion in debt, it's cool!

    The chinese are going there for a weekend trip like we did if anything. They are going there just to prove that they can, that they are on the same level as the US, so they may stay there a little longer just to show us up but they will not gain anything from it beside prestige. It is politically motivated not economically.

    Do you realize that at the moon you are no longer protected by the earths magnetic field and exposed completely to deadly cosmic radiation? You couldn't survive out there much longer then our astronauts did without dire consiquences (radiation sickness, cancer). We currently have no technology to deal with this besides thick lead shielding which is too dam heavy to carry along with currrent rocket technology.
     

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