The vicious circle of religion.

There is a wide plurality of evangelism that rejects evolution and evolutionary science. If you're not part of that, good. It's a dangerous philosophy.

 

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Creation occurred looooonnng before evolution did.

 

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Creation doesn't require God, but evolution does require life.

 

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Creation requires someone with the knowledge of how to create, which YHWH had, call him what you want. Evolution doesn't require evolution either, but it still happened.

 

Then prove it.

 

Instead you can buy a daffodil to cure cancer give a mouse cancer

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When a star creates heavy elements that doesn't require a God, and however our universe was created was also natural and didn't require a God. Whatever you believe about God is hearsay of hearsay of hearsay...etc. all the way back to superstitious primitive people and for some reason you want to believe in that shit.

 

as far as I recall abiogenesis is strictly a theoretical notion

 

On the contrary, whatever you believe about origins of existence arising out of reductionist models is hearsay .. but for some reason you want to believe in marrying empiricism to post dated rain cheques (ie : total shit)

 

Part of being a scientists is the ability to make independent judgements. This requires a firm grounding in science theory and the ability to reason and infer. If you require censoring to create the illusion of independent judgement, you are not really a scientist. You still have training wheels on the mind, and cannot yet drive by yourself without support. The Evangelical movements do not impact me in ways that make me lose my ability to have independent judgements even if I learn what they have to say. Maybe the scientists of this generation are not really as independent as they claim.

 

And yet it has more evidence in it's favor than God.

 

Where did he get that knowledge?

 

Actually even if you want to talk of reductionist models monopolizing calls for evidence, the two claims are equal because they are both theoretical (never mind the detail that its logically impossible to evidence either of them by the said method)
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I think you are correct. What has that got to do with anything? I like the fact that we still don't know it all. I just don't see how that means I should believe in God. By the way which God do you believe in? I would guess Christian and then ask why that one? Let me guess, you were brought up that way.

 

How did it come by ? I was not there, and you were not either, but I really would like to know how did life started scientifically in step by step, how this molecules come together

 

Reductionism actually works because it led to the discovery of the fundamental units of both life (cells, DNA) and matter (atoms, quarks).

 

Me too.

 

What go that far , on how heavy elements were made. We don't know If God is an very advanced being and reside in some planet in some distant galaxy .
Why overflow to invoke something to far removed

 

Still working on that, can I get back to you later when I get the answer?

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Evolution requires a formed cell.

How long did it take us Identify DNA, 120000 years or more . Do we know how old is the universe 13,7 B years , what about before B.B.