War Games: Iran Style

Discussion in 'World Events' started by S.A.M., Dec 9, 2011.

  1. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    lol they got the best drone deployed in the world (that's what happened cpt b).
    & 4 more lols they have bright young engineers from the best schools (won't mention they're not in the USA anymore).

    @ SG thanks a lot mate
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe the drone is still spying on them as we speak! It could be a Trojan horse. They take it to their secret base to study, then we blow up their secret base.
     
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  5. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Ya'Alla (wa wulla yellah)
    Itz full of Ziontsts Zohans Zoroastrians!!
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    US asks Iran to return useless outdated and completely pointless drone of no significance whatsoever [credible circles say they like to recycle their own trash as Iranians have yet to comprehend this sophisticated process discovered by Israel]

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16150384

    Michael, you're a smart guy, unlike some others I could mention. I suggest you look at how academic institutions rate Iranian work, inspite of the fact that they cannot get published in some circles due to sanctions. Or work with some Iranian students to get a handle on their capability

    and yalla hype, fenak ya habib! ahlan wa sahlan!
     
  8. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Shukran wahlan fiiki
     
  9. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    And they won't be able to do f*** all with it, because they still can't even build aircraft on par with what America sold them in the 1970's. Their stealth bomber project has spent years as nothing more than an artistic rendering- even most Hollywood movies get further along in development. But all the same, good luck cheering on the zealots while we continue with the next round of sanctions. If you're itching for a major war in the middle east, then I expect you won't complain when Iran's civilians pay the biggest price- that's not what you're looking for, is it?
     
  10. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe we should be worried that this drone technology will be reverse-engineered by Iran's legions of Nobel Prize winners so they can use it to detect women with too much hair showing. Be achfraid, everybody! Inshallah, you shall be very achfraid, and we will make you humble!
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    When you want to learn about something you always see what the informed critics are saying

    http://www.irandiplomacywatch.com/2011/07/pride-in-future-politics-of-irans-space.html

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20291-iran-is-top-of-the-world-in-science-growth.html
     
  12. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Going from D's to C+'s isn't normally a cause to celebrate, but kudos if that's what floats your boat, no doubt it's an improvement. Honestly, I know plenty of Iranian scientists... and they're a tiny fraction of the total population, and largely happy as pigs in s**t to be getting away from the mess back home. It takes more than just a few competent scientists scattered around the country to accomplish anything substantial, or even a few hundred. Heisenberg, one of the pioneering fathers of quantum mechanics, headed Hitler's A-bomb project and it ended up achieving dittily squat for them.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I predict that Iran will be stuck in 1st gear for a long time to come, basically the same timeline as when they eventually get rid of the retard mullahs. If they start flying stealth drones all over the place and snooping on American troops, then I'll eat crow (no, I don't mean 1960's remote control toy planes with camcorders taped to the wings). 'Til then, I smell desperation for a feel-good story in dark times when Iran's most important allied tyrant is about to go under and their international lifelines are shrinking by the day. On the other side, Russia is showing its true colours more and more now, and we may have a much bigger problem with them down the road (and much more land to grab from them if they choose to f*** around).
     
  13. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    There's a couple of good overview articles over at foreignpolicy.com:

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/12/09/iran_has_americas_super_spy_drone_so_what

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/12/09/this_week_at_war_out_to_sea

    One significant difference with drones, is that when this kind of thing happened in previous conflicts, adversaries ended up not only with captured spy planes, but also with captured spy plane pilots.
     
  14. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Wasn't that actually done once in Iraq or somewhere, some years back? I forget exactly, but it rings a bell...
     
  15. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    There was an incident like that reported recently in Lebanon where a Hezbollah arms cache blew up and they blocked the area off to UN inspectors, shortly after they had boasted of downing an Israeli drone. S.A.M. and I were discussing it briefly on pg. 1, there were a few unofficial Israeli sources claiming it was a booby-trapped drone specifically meant for that job. A major Iranian missile depot was reported to have blown up recently as well, supposedly took out their top rocket scientist too, but there's been a lot of different rumours flying around over that one, and another explosion that happened shortly afterwards near the nuclear facility in Isfahan.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think you read the articles I posted or if you did your response reflects an inability to comprehend the points that were being made. I guess its a reflection of priorities. If you always need a bogeyman, you'll find one, regardless of whether one exists or not.

    I doubt Iran will be sending any drones to spy on the US, you don't have anything they need. It may help however for them to know what kind of military deterrance they can work out from the information they have

    You have to admit though, for a country that hasn't attacked anyone in over a hundred years, with no weapons to speak of and without a single shot being fired, its pretty good at making Americans dance. You know that Iran was called to a roundtable discussion with the US over Afghanistan where they decided on sharia for the Afghans right?
     
  17. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Iran already uses drones to surveil US naval deployments in the Persian Gulf, among other things.

    It seems quite obvious that Iran very much needs certain information about US capabilities, intentions and activities.

    Likewise, the USA isn't spying on Iran because Iran has "something they need." Most surveillance is about gathering intelligence, not industrial espionage.

    Nobody has to admit that your mischaracterization of Iran bears any resemblance to reality.
     
  18. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    If the USA's economy seriously goes into the shit-hole, and war-hawk Obama thinks he can win reelection by declaring war on Iran, I don't think protests in Iran are going to do anything to prevent war.

    Remember when the head of the IAE himself protested in Iraq ahead of the war. He himself said Iraq didn't have WMD let alone "nukes". It did nothing to stop the war.

    The only, ONLY, way to prevent the coming war with Iran is to elect Ron Paul. You'd be much more effective supporting his candidacy. He is the ONLY politician who will bring home the troupes. Obama's staring down the barrel of a Depression and he certainly doesn't want to see hundreds of thousands of military personnel returning into that sort of economy - and, more importantly (much more importantly) his Paymasters know they'll probably be swinging from ropes if all some real men get really pissed off (as opposed to college kids).

    As for Iran, do they export ANY technological innovative or engineering products? I don't even think they make their own fuel (if I remember correctly they have to buy it). I buy Iranian pomegranate juice at a local fruit shop. I know some really clever Iranians. Mainly engineers. Sadly, most run little fruit shops. The lucky ones, teach at University.
     
  19. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm Cpt. I agree its much ado about nothing. Iran is milking it to the point of embarrassment. And the US asking for it back is hilarious if not so predictably arrogant. Drone tech is pretty much available to anyone with money.
    Exactly right, except that I believe they have valid reasons for defensiveness and the resurgence towards patriotic yearnings for "Empire". Of course they have the second biggest wad of nukes after the planet - there will be no winners to grab land if it comes to the crunch.
     
  20. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Well I`ll be...

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  21. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    I don't see it that way. I see all this historic arguing over tiny patches of desert while the Russians quietly wiped out dozens of ethnic minorities and gobbled up heaps of land left, right, centre and south, enough to comfortably fit all the Jews and Arabs in the world many times over. Then they grabbed even more after WW2, and they have the gall to feel pissed off that a small portion of their Soviet-era annexations were reversed even though they cleaned out an entire historic German city (Konigsberg) and still keep it for themselves? This on top of countries like Ukraine where half the population are Russian transplants and Russia refuses to recognize their basic national sovereignty? And if we're to complain of ethnic cleansing and brutality, does anything in America's recent history compare with the scorched Earth policies Russia employed in Chechnya?

    If that's not enough empire for Russia, and they want to continue helping others murder Americans as revenge for not being given the whole planet on a silver platter, then next time they engage in a large-scale war, I think we ought to respond by rolling them back, permanently. It's too bad we didn't do precisely that after Germany's surrender in WW2. Russia may have a huge nuclear arsenal on paper, but it's said in practice they only have a few hundred functional warheads at best, so we should be exploiting that weakness by pumping more into missile defenses, backing them into a corner so that they will be severely punished for the next war they start, and will not have the capability to wage another one for the next 100 years. It's their choice, they're the ones trying to tip the regional balance at the moment, and they should suffer the consequences if it ends in catastrophe.
     
  22. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Get over the Red Menace. They fell down last century. This century is about US decline, and how dangerous we are becoming as sore losers.
     
  23. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    @michael re: Ron Paul- agreed.
     

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