My Kingdom for a Hoss

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  1. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Very cute little guy, MacGyver. I can imagine that he would be very good at getting attention.

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    Take him for a stroll at a horse show or country fair and you would have almost every female present in your wake, lol....(Ideas for fellows who are looking to get the attention of women.)

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    Is he a registered Paint?
     
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  3. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Tell me that it was only ONCE that you made the same mistake TWICE.....:bugeye:

    Just kidding.

    An embarrassing coincidence, as has happened to most of us if we care to admit it.

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  5. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure...he belongs to my cousin. Those are pics from Thanksgiving '09, so he's grown up quite a bit since then.
     
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    This seems like a timely place to insert the breed characteristics and distinctions of the Paint horse.

     
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    That's whats great about sciforums...you can learn new stuff everyday.
     
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    It also seems pertinent to post the difference between the Paint Horse, which is a registered breed of QH and/or Thoroughbred ancestry and the Pinto Horse, which is a coolr breed and may be of diverse background. Some breed registries will not accept horses of color and so in most cases, these animals can find a home with the Pinto registry with the exceptions being draft breeds and mules as exclusions.

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    The horse shown here is a registered Saddlebred, who is also registered as a Pinto. His offspring of a registered Saddlebred mare can then be registered to either or both registries if the foal is colored, and offspring of grade mares (unregistered, mixed breed) can be registered as Pintos if they throw to color.

    It can be a bit confusing, as all Paint horses can be registered as Pintos (the color breed) but not all Pintos can be registered as Paints, as Paints are breed specific.
     
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    oops try link above again...
     
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    Przewalski's Horse (Pronounced Sheh-VAL-ski; /ʃɨˈvælski/ or /zɨˈvɑːlskiː/; Polish: [pʂɛˈvalski]; Equus ferus przewalskii, Mongolian: Тахь, Takhi) or Dzungarian Horse, is a rare and endangered subspecies of wild horse (Equus ferus) native to the steppes of central Asia, specifically China and Mongolia.

    At one time extinct in the wild, it has been reintroduced to its native habitat in Mongolia at the Khustain Nuruu National Park, Takhin Tal Nature Reserve and Khomiin Tal.[1] The taxonomic position is still debated, and some taxonomists treat Przewalski's Horse as a species, Equus przewalskii. In China, the last wild Przewalski's horses were seen in 1966. The Przewalski's Horse Reintroduction Project of China was initiated in 1985 with the creation of the Xinjiang Wild Horse Breeding Center.

    Common names for this equine include Asian Wild Horse and Mongolian Wild Horse. Historical but obsolete names include true tarpan and Mongolian tarpan. The horse is named after the Russian geographer and explorer Nikolai Przhevalsky.

    Most "wild" horses today, such as the American Mustang or the Australian Brumby, are actually feral horses descended from domesticated animals that escaped and adapted to life in the wild. In contrast, Przewalski's Horse has never been successfully domesticated and remains a truly wild animal today. Przewalski's Horse is one of two known subspecies of Equus ferus, the other being the extinct Tarpan (Equus ferus ferus). The Przewalski's Horse is considered the only remaining truly wild "horse" in the world and may be the closest living wild relative of the domesticated horse, Equus caballus. There are still a number of other wild equines, including three species of zebra and various subspecies of the African wild ass, onager and kiang.


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    Zebra - the hooviest grooviest hoss on the planet....

    Zebras evolved among the Old World horses within the last 4 million years. Grevy's zebras (and perhaps also Mountain Zebras) are with asses and donkeys in a separate lineage from the other zebra lineages. This means either that striped equids evolved more than once, or that common ancestors of zebras and asses were striped and only zebras retained the stripes. Extensive stripes are posited to have been of little use to equids that live in low densities in deserts (like asses and some horses) or ones that live in colder climates with shaggy coats and annual shading (like some horses).

    Fossils of an ancient equid were discovered in the Hagerman Fossil Beds National Monument in Hagerman, Idaho. It was named the Hagerman horse with a scientific name of Equus simplicidens. It is believed to have been similar to the Grevy's zebra. The animals had stocky zebra-like bodies and short, narrow, donkey-like skulls. Grevy's zebra also has a donkey-like skull. The Hagerman horse is also called the American zebra or Hagerman zebra.


    Classification


    Zebras in Botswana
    There are three extant species. Collectively, two of the species have eight subspecies (seven extant). Zebra populations are diverse, and the relationships between and the taxonomic status of several of the subspecies are not well known.
    Genus: Equus
    Subgenus: Hippotigris
    Plains Zebra, Equus quagga
    Quagga, Equus quagga quagga (extinct)
    Burchell's Zebra, Equus quagga burchellii (includes Damara Zebra)
    Grant's Zebra, Equus quagga boehmi
    Selous' Zebra, Equus quagga borensis
    Chapman's Zebra, Equus quagga chapmani
    Crawshay's Zebra, Equus quagga crawshayi
    Mountain Zebra, Equus zebra
    Cape Mountain Zebra, Equus zebra zebra
    Hartmann's Mountain Zebra, Equus zebra hartmannae
    Subgenus: Dolichohippus
    Grévy's Zebra, Equus grevy


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    Zebras are pretty cool, but my vote goes to the unusual brindle coat pattern.

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    Ye gods! The hotlinking here is positively lumpen!

    Fixed above.
     
  20. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    An interesting article, geekzilla, though it is not a surprise to me. Stallions present a much greater challenge in their management and so it has ever been the case that a few stallions cover the majority of mares bred. Even in the wild, the successful stallion would challenge to maintain this right, though natural causes would likely see the herd sire hold tenure for a shorter term than in domestic situations.

    With today's technology and the use of frozen semen, stallions can theoretically produce off-spring for 25-30 years as the frozen semen can be used for a few years after the sire is deceased or no longer fertile.

    Horsemen have ever paid a lot of attention to the attributes and breeding of the mares used. One practice, of breeding for the maternal grand-sire effect, would actually further limit the diversity of the patriline, yet some characteristics can ONLY be passed on through the daughters, as the following describes:

    http://www.teke.ca/2007/03/21/the-importance-of-dam-lines-in-breeding/
     
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    Anybody who has done much traveling will be aware that the smell and taste of water is variable and that some of it is not palatable without filtering or treatment. Merely witness the increasing demand for bottled water in recent years. Horses are quite sensitive to smell and taste (why it is challenging to give them oral medications) and adequate water intake is vital to their digestive processes and general well-being. When I used to travel to shows, I always carried a good supply of my own well water for the horses, and this often gave my animals the advantage as they never refused it. They were able to deal with the stress of travel and a crowded new venue from the basis of the comfort zone of familiar people, water and nutrition.

    An interesting article here in regard to horses and their preference in drinking water. The apparent purpose of the research seems designed to facilitate ways to improve the delivery system of medications, yet there are some interesting tidbits in here for persons who may be rather new to the study of horses, their needs and their preferences.

     
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    When I bestride him, I soar, I am a hawk: he trots the air; the earth sings when he touches it; the basest horn of his hoof is more musical than the pipe of Hermes. ~William Shakespeare, Henry V
     
  23. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    I have to admit that in I've started riding at a very early age and I actually got quite serious about it at one stage. To the point where I Trained under and instructor from Le Cadre Noir de Saumur which is conected to L'Ecole Nationale d'Equitation in France.
    If you remember that 80s James Bond film "Veiw to a Kill" that horse that Rodger Moore rides on the Chantilly Racecourse belonged to my teacher.

    I’m not a bible basher but I always like this poem.

    Old Testament Horse

    Hast thou given the horse strength?
    Hast thou clothed his neck with thunder?
    Canst thou make him afraid as a grasshopper?
    The glory of his nostrils is terrible.
    He paweth in the valley, and rejoiceth in his strength:
    he goeth on to meet the armed men.

    He mocketh at fear, and is not affrighted;
    neither turneth he back from the sword.
    The quiver rattleth against him, the glittering
    spear and the shield.
    He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage:
    neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.
    He saith among the trumpets, Ha, ha; and he smelleth
    the battle afar off, the thunder of the captains, and the
    shouting.
     

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