Backgrounds in moderation

So these posts from you are..?

To tell me you disagree with me?

As I said to you before.. okay. You disagree.

And?

The mods are also members.. yes..

And where did I say it was the whole "oh it's all those intransigent posters' fault" type of "bull"? Can you show it to me please?

Link?

Do you know what we are currently discussing before you re-entered the thread?

Was a typo.

And I assure you, no one here is treating this as a joke. I certainly am not.

Now, can you tell me which other mod ban willy nilly without documentation and refuse to explain why?

I am sure he will personally thank you for your support. But thus far, we have all been held accountable for our actions, through either being banned, given infringement or threatened with both. I'll put it this way Geoff, in all our wars of the past, if I was like James and was thus not held accountable, you would not be posting here at all. Do you understand the difference now?

We will of course overlook the fact that you started this thread and pointed me out of the crowd, the 'lawyer', and questioning my qualifications.. We will also ignore your name calling, your crying to James for every little thing when you are hardly innocent in the goading, name calling and abusing yourself.. When you PM me and then abuse me in public and via PM after I tell you via PM that I had been away due to the cancer treatment I was having at the time and abusing me for a double standard for not posting.. when I hadn't even been there in the first place.. because apparently responding to you was more important than my chemo.. no, those PM's weren't goading, were they?

I see you also completely missed the fact that I had repeated, over and over again that when I post outside of Human Science, I am posting as a member, so I never once absolved myself of any responsibility for the direction this forum has taken. But hey, no, that doesn't matter does it?

Maybe I should ask James what my recourse is against you Geoff.

So what are you doing here then? What are you doing here with me?

You are aware, aren't you, that I never once moderated you. I don't think I have ever issued you an infraction. Certainly for anything you and I have brawled over. Not once.

Right..

Okay. If that is your opinion that I was 'in on it'.. as though we planned this from the start.. 10 years ago...:shrug:

So here we are, with the forum we apparently asked for with, in your opinion, arseholes on either side, with you on the wall in your shiny armour! Praise jeebus our saviour..

Not at all. I'm simply trying to figure out what your issue is and what your problem is with me in particular.

So you are not trying to bait me, by telling me that 'some mods' have contributed to the split in the forum (I don't think you actually realise what caused the split) and then swearing at me?

You're not trying to bait me. You're "just fucking telling" me that you disagree with me?

Okay.

Then show me who I banned incorrectly and show me where I abused my mod powers and then refused to explain or even apologise. Show me where I inspire such actions. Find me a link. Or go away.

I don't think you quite understand anything that's going on at the moment. You seem to be torn between defending James and abusing moderators for 'something something'.

You think 'I have many fine characters' but you are accusing me of conspiracy and abuse of my moderator powers.. No, not baiting at all.

Geoff, you disagree with me, again.. fine.:shrug: You "fucking" told me already.

 

You don't think we've tried?

 

I'd say sockpuppet for sure.

On a totally different matter.. holy crap I'd forgotten how small our PM box is as member.. Mass deletion and it was still full..

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lmao.

 

spuriousmonkey:

Thanks for the apology. I still haven't heard from you by PM. Also, unfortunately, an apology is useless unless it is heartfelt.

This comes across as disingenuous.

What are you planning to do regarding the continuing slander of sciforums and its moderators on your own forum?

When are you going to stop engaging in that yourself?

How many people do you think you're actually fooling here?

Fine. No need to do so.

You may have missed my posts regarding yourself in this thread. If so, go back and read them.

Half right. The lies about your forum's content won't really fly, I'm afraid. Go to just about any thread there and people can see you and your mates continually referring to what goes on here. You all seem quite fixated. Crunchy Cat's posts above in the current thread are right on the money.

So, once again, who do you think you're fooling?

No need to worry then.

Well, you have your own forum for that, don't you?

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Nickelodeon is always a great wit and intellect, for example. I'm sure you agree.

Thanks for the offer, but we're really doing just fine without you.

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There's nothing to "act on".

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spuriousmonkey has complete control over what material remains on his website. He is well aware of all the insults levelled at this forum. He obviously condones and approves of them.

Right on both counts. He is not responsible for the shit you write, and he can't be forced to take it down.

But to pretend he wants to make amends here while continuing to host "shit" is two-faced and dishonest, as ever with him.

Witness his false "apology" above. I bet right now you're all having a big laugh about that over on his forum.

 

Bells:

It doesn't matter if nobody who was looting in the London riots ever comes here. The principle is that we have no need to host advice to criminals. Get it?

Put the puzzle together yourself. It's not hard. SAM was a member, then she was a moderator, then she wasn't. Now she is a disgruntled ex-moderator. etc. etc. You can fill in gaps, I'm sure.

At any time you could have provided a link to say which posts you were talking about on any given occasion. Somehow, I'm supposed to read your mind and intuit what you're referring to. Once you referred to a specific thread, I had more of an idea what your were talking about.

So your idea of fun now is to paint me as a misogynistic sexist.

Wow, Bells. You've really flipped out.

I didn't mean to give any such impression. I started a thread to discuss the topic of material posted by Gustav. You posted in that thread on how you disagreed with my position on that. Another moderator wrote to disagree with you, and you blew your lid at that point and resigned.

I moved posts discussing Gustav's ban from the "temporary ban" forum to a separate thread for discussion. I skimmed them, like I said. As for responding and commenting, I've covered that in my last reply to you. Didn't you read it?

I never said anything different.

Who cares about your timeline? What audience are you playing to here? Do you really think that trying to trip me up on what went down in a forum that general members can't see is going to impress anybody?

Previously, we established, when you commented on my private life, that "Hmmmm...." is code for "I'm not going to talk about that", and that it was not an innuendo that (a) I have no private life or (b) that my attending to your concerns and complaints is more important than attending to things like my family.

So, I'm going to assume that your "Hmmm..." here similarly means "I'm not going to take about what information is available about bans" (for whatever reason), and that it is not innuendo for "You're lying, James. There's a lot of stuff hidden about bans, but I won't tell the general membership about that. I'll just let them think you're being underhanded."

So, let us move on.

I'm recording this as evidence of the reasonableness of my interpretation above.

Yes.

 

The criminals it would have been shown to would be the London rioters. The very people you are now saying did not matter if they saw it on this site..

In short James, as I told you many times now, you have no proof that he was directing it at criminals. He posted something pertaining to the subject matter in the thread. You obviously disagree.

Are you accusing me of being a disgruntled ex-moderator?

What I am asking is that you be held accountable for your decisions.

When you banned him a second time, you did not think to consider that it may have been a bad call. You just banned. You only lifted the ban when your back was to the wall and you were looking like a bully. You offered no explanation for the incorrect ban and you did not even see fit to apologise to him for having banned him for asking you to explain is ban.. in the open Government forum.. In short, you are banning people for asking you to explain how you treat them.

But apparently my expectation that you actually speak to the "mob" and explain your actions makes me a "disgruntled ex-moderator"..

Your lack of honesty and your attempts to dodge have been noted. This is not the first time. First it was the moderator support you had in the forums which was not there.. like you had failed to document the first ban. Then it was not seeing it and not even knowing where the posts were. Then it was saying that I had started a thread to have my supposed drama-queen resignation, which I had not done. And then you claim you had apparently skimmed the thread.. I could go on..

So which is it?

You knew exactly which thread I was talking about since it was the only thread in there that was dealing directly with the issue.. the thread YOU started and had told everyone you'd started and where we were discussing the issue.

So yeah, can the BS.

Well you support sexism and misogynistic attitudes in the back room. If the shoe fits James.

And here you are earlier claiming you hadn't read it, didn't know where it all was, then said I'd started a thread to resign in a melodramatic fashion...

But nice making it look like I resigned because someone disagreed with me. Oh yes, Bells, the drama-queen who flipped out, etc. This is very typical of you James.

I'm sorry. I am trying to decide which version you have said thus far is to be believed James.

Really?

You really sure about that?

"I was short on time. I posted a "hold your horses and let's not be too hasty here" post. Next time I logged in, you had announced your resignation to the world." ​

Again, I had posted my resignation before you posted your "hold your horses" post.

So you were saying?

Trying to trip you up?

You are the one claiming you hadn't read it when we both know you had and the moderators can check and see that you had read it, since you then posted after I resigned about 'holding one's horses' about resignations, demands for resignations, accusations and what not. You claimed you hadn't read the posts and didn't know where they were when you responded in the thread. Then you come out and claim you had skimmed it before responding.

I understand that to get the upperhand you have this inherent need to portray me as being somewhat insane or as having 'flipped out'. But don't lie.

You are displaying the very attitude that we are talking about with you and you are still refusing to be held accountable for your actions.

What?

I say that when I have no comment James.

Did you get all that from a "hmmm"? God help it if you ever listen to CTD.
You'll end up beside yourself with the innuendo that you think is all about you.

Don't worry. I have my own records as well James.

How about this.. How about to display your reasonableness of your interpretation, you post that thread here? You know, to clear everything up and to show just how reasonable you are. Unedited.

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What's the point really?

At the very least, it's given Geoff open slather and season to dig his boot in. At least someone is having some fun.

But really, what's the point?

You notice that Geoff does not address any other moderator, just me. He does not address the administration with his concern. No.. apparently it is not just me, but he addresses me only, just the same. From the start of this thread, to the end.. He distinctly forgets when he abused me for daring to put my treatment before his petty vendetta and actually not responding. No, it's just me. He forgets his pettiness, his own abuse. Denies it even. I never denied my posts against him... And even as he holds himself up high, he abuses me again, ah, bless the freedom of admin protection, eh Geoff? Then insults my profession and again insults my qualifications... He gets what he probably wanted from the start and it's still not enough.

Coupled with James' constant lying.

This place is toxic.

I already advised Sam and Marquis. I won't be coming back, probably for a long time, if ever. So this is the end. My last post.. Until I return or not. I got a call yesterday afternoon from my doctor. The break from that was good while it lasted.. Round 4 begins.

I guess I am tired of fighting.. It's been a while, hasn't it? I have more important things to fight for now.

Butting heads for what feels like it's daily. Watching the lies, the cover-up's the refusals to accept responsibility and accountability. The goons in the backroom who literally ban instantly as soon as James asks for a review, and ban without said review.. And then James says "well it wasn't me that banned you".. This is the crap that's been going on for how long now? And it's been getting worse and worse.

The pandering to members like Geoff.. Notice how James tolerates Geoff so much? I'd always wondered how James was getting so much information from spurious' forum.. Perhaps, perhaps not.. Who knows really. I mean here is Geoff, accusing the system of being corrupt, and James says nothing to him. Absolutely nothing to him. And Geoff does not address anything to James either. As I said, toxic and corrupt. I've reached the point where I am beyond caring.

So yeah.. I'm done.


So to Tiassa, Trippy, String, Madanthonywayne, Billy, DH, Kmguru, Glaucon, Enmos, Hype, Stryder, Tristan and finally Plazma. I thank you. It was at the very least and most, a pleasure working with you all. You are the good moderators of this place. You are fair. We may not have agreed on everything, but you are fair and you made it fun. So thank you.

To particular members. Thank you. It has been a fun nearly 11 years now. And I will miss you. More than I can actually put into words.

Finally.. To the one person who is taking this opportunity to try and get back at me for sport...

Geoff..

Goodbye.