Osama Bin Laden is Dead

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SciWriter, May 2, 2011.

  1. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    de facto that is true.
    The Western style of banking, with a few honourable exceptions, has been proved corrupt.
    Like a cancer, even when the major part of it has been excised, and the patient lies weak upon his hospital bed, the disease seeks new growth.
    Another thread though.
     
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  3. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    Because he knows what TPTB did to Benazir Bhutto, he's a man that knows how to play ball, and doesn't actually give a shit about his country, but is motivated by self-interest. Does he want to end up like her? I'm thinking not. You do what they tell you to do, just like Obama is doing.

    Just pieces on the board being moved around. Do you know how to play chess? What's important, the players or the pieces?
     
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  5. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Ok then, if you're the grandmaster and know so much about this chess game... what's America's next move? How about their opponents? I like it when people set actual times, events and places so you can laugh at them when it doesn't happen.
     
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  7. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps, but that's the point. The whole reason for the war in Afganistan WAS NOT TERRORISM. It was to root out Islamic banking and replace it with the Rothschild's Empire. Now that is done and the west can leave. The conservative's are resistant, so now TPTB can tell the world that OBL is dead. What better way to release this state secret than to influence the US election and make sure that Obama is reelected after Trump is summarily humiliated?

    That's the point.
     
  8. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    Honestly? I don't know, I don't have all the answers. Especially after the U.S. tightened control of the internet search of information with it's attempted passage of the "internet neutrality act." Now they have done it anyway through administrative fiat.
    I once tried to start a thread analyzing how our discussions can only be as good as our information, but it was quickly closed down. For this thread, I had to find alternative search engines to Google to find information. Finding out information about what is going on in alternative western media sources is damn near impossible. If you want to find out what is going on in alternative media sources from BRIC nations? Forget it.

    I come here, because there are several level headed members that post great stuff that help me do research and I find out great stuff. Several of them are moderators in fact. But making predictions? Yeah, right. . .
     
  9. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    Anyone speak Mandarin?
     
  10. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    The evil Powers That Be at Google have a Mandarin translator you should try.

    Edit: Oh my God Esotericist, I see your post is marked with the number of the beast!
     
  11. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    You're definitely on to something there.

    And, on arguing with such:
    http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf
     
  12. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    OK. Definitely my last post on the subject of banking on this thread, so I will leave the final word to yourself. When you associate the old Rothschild banking family with the current banking mess, I think you are devaluing the worth of traditional banking to world business and progress. Their descendants may well be heavily involved, but traditional banking practise is not the problem.
    Traditional banking, as practised by the Rothschild's and others, was based upon finding new markets and investing in them based upon calculated risk.
    They provided money to finance commercial activities, but only if they could be convinced that the business would eventually make a profit.
    Late 20th Century banking, based on lending money and making a profit whether those businesses succeed or fail, is a totally different and poisonous idea.
     
  13. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    oh Gustav must ahve been clowning with me
     
  14. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    I'd love to see her box.
     
  15. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    I agree, as I will soon explain, but that is not why it is growing and taking business from interest charging banks. It is doing that for the simple reason that huge sums of money, mainly payments for oil, but also investment in the growing financial centers and modern cites of the Middle East (site of world's tallest building, for example).

    The fundamental reason why Islamic banking is a superior system for making loans is that instead of interest the lender gets (usually) an interest in the project being financed. This makes the lender carefully evaluate the project requesting financing.

    In western interest charging financing, the lender (especially if a bank) will normally sell the interest bearing note to Fanny May, if it is mortgage, or to some investors, perhaps even with a totally silly AAA rating by an agency that also did not really do adequate investigation of the project being financed chance's of being economically able to pay back the loan. They just assume, in many cases that the bank did adequately investigate. - That is how the US got billions of "toxic trash" floating around in the financial world, most of which is now carried on the FED's books at unrealistic face value. - I.e. the tax payers will, one way or another, eventually eat the losses.

    Still now, with Islamic bank lending it normally holds a piece of the action, although they too are getting creative and finding new ways to shift the risk to someone else. In a decade or so there will be Islamic "toxic trash" also as when the lender sell out his interest instead of holds, he does does not care much if the loan will be repaid.
     
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  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Oh what a tangled web we weave when we start to practice... insanity. Occam's razor, use it.
     
  17. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus this thread has grown so fast, can anyone summarize it, in summary what conclusions has the sciforum community made about these events?
     
  18. Gustav Banned Banned

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    sam is raining on our parade
    a party pooper

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  19. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I was coming here to post something about that. I normally don't trust politicians, but Obama would be insane to lie about something like this, which is why I believe him. If he did lie, he'd be toast as soon as Bin Laden released a new video talking about current events or something that proved he was still alive.
     
  20. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry guys but no one really responded to my responses and i am still looking for stimulating debate on this issue
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Of what use is his body? We have DNA, we have death photos which have not been released yet. No country was willing to take the body.
     
  22. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    its not about the body its about the speed at which it was buried, why did they bury it so quickly
    and what about his gazzilionth wife and bazzilionth son or grandson, did they get buried in 24 hours too?!?
     
  23. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't that Islamic tradition? They do that in Judaism too.
     

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