Got any evidence that anyone was on dialysis? Or that Seals were involved? What courts has it appeared in?
And warfare isn't waged in courtrooms. And even if it was, this here isn't some courtroom that you presiding over. So: relevance? But, actually, courts do ultimately revolve around opinions. That's why we use phrases like "Justice So-and-so delivered the opinion of the Supreme Court today..."
And you seem to be very bad at finding quotes where those words are actually presented to you, all you are doing is placing a spin.
None so far, right now it is just the competing narratives of two sets of vigilantes. Hence, equally subject to disbelief. I'm not even able to find a single reference to al Qaeda made by Osama. So who are we referring to? Internet memes on both sides, seems like
Of course, feel free to take a retrospective dekko. I have been supremely influenced by Chi's thread.
@Sam This one article in Le Figaro that Bin Laden was on dialysis, has it ever been substantiated by any other reputable news agency? Because its only sites like Alex Jones, wanttoknow and such that are spreading this claim. Its kind of like your 'Bin laden died in 2001' story. But then again Jim Morrison isn't dead either, he's hiding with Elvis at JFK Jr's house.
And again I ask you and you fail to answer: Are you denying that Bin Laden created, funded and led al-Qaeda? Or are you denying that there is an al-qaeda? Or are you implying that al-qaeda has never engaged in terrorism? Because a yes to any one of those questions is what had him on the most wanted list. I am asking you if you think Bin Laden is innocent of terrorism charges.
No surprises from you, it requires a certain level of intelligence to consider that perhaps I've been to London many times, but I was only specifically aware that I was in "East London" once. I don't know why I bother, everyone already knows what you're all about.
The president is forwarding all the relevant classified information to you momentarily. Regards, Spidergoat On Behalf of Barack Obama
I don't read Le Figaro, I got my info from a Pakistani source [Dawn I think] but a quick google search shows that same info quoted on CBS Of course, its an unsupported assertion, pretty much like everything else we know about him. On checking further, it seems the info was also made public by Musharraf see The Corbett Report:http://www.corbettreport.com/osama-bin-laden-pronounced-dead-for-the-ninth-time/ And Time:
Interesting, I'm gonna try and set aside some time to watch this, I gotta look it up on the relevant Canadian site though 'cuz your link only works for Americans.
So then why forward an unsupported assertion? Unless of course you believe it to be valid? God what a media conspiracy to cast aspersions on poor ole Bin Laden even Al Jazeera is in on it: He declared war against the very United States which had spent billions of dollars bankrolling the Afghan resistance in which he had fought. Al-Qaeda embarked on a trail of attacks, beginning with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing that killed six and first raised the spectre of Islamist extremism spreading to the United States. Bin Laden was the prime suspect in bombings of US servicemen in Saudi Arabia in 1995 and 1996 as well as attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 that killed 224. In October 2000, suicide bombers rammed into the USS Cole warship in Yemen, killing 17 sailors, and al-Qaeda was blamed. Disowned by his family and stripped of Saudi citizenship, bin Laden had moved first to Sudan in 1992 and later resurfaced in Afghanistan before the Taliban seized Kabul in 1996. With his wealth, largesse and shared radical Muslim ideology, bin Laden soon eased his way into inner Taliban circles as they imposed their rigid interpretation of Islam. From Afghanistan, bin Laden issued religious decrees against US soldiers and ran training camps where fighters were groomed for a global campaign of violence. Recruits were drawn from Central, South and Southeast Asia, the Middle East, Africa and even Europe by their common hatred of the United States, Israel and moderate Muslim governments, as well as a desire for a more fundamentalist brand of Islam. After the 1998 attacks on two of its African embassies, the United States fired dozens of cruise missiles at Afghanistan, targeting al Qaeda training camps. Bin Laden escaped unscathed. The Taliban paid a heavy price for sheltering bin Laden and his fighters, suffering a humiliating defeat after a US-led invasion in the weeks after the September 11, 2001 attacks. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/05/20115251555423645.html Those bastards they even link him to terrorism in his orbituaryPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I mean really only an innocent person would run to them there hills when they are wrongfully accused of funding terrorism and they can prove their own innocence. We all know that all Bin Laden ever wanted was a cold cave and the Quran so why all the harassment? :bugeye: So AGAIN what are you implying: Are you denying that Bin Laden created, funded and led al-Qaeda? Or are you denying that there is an al-qaeda? Or are you implying that al-qaeda has never engaged in terrorism? Because his guilt to any one of those questions is what had him on the most wanted list. I am asking you if you think Bin Laden is innocent of terrorism charges.
There was no spin, quote my other post then and explain how that wasn't saying it was a support of him.
Thank you S.A.M. But here in the U.S.A., it's not the truth unless the media and government say it is.
Not really, like I said, I go by the evidence. So we have Musharraf, Ahmed Rashid, the CIA report and unknown Pakistani intelligence officials telling CBS that OBL has kidney disease. I'm saying that there is more evidence for his dialysis [which you can see above for what it is] than for all of the other questions posted.
No it wasn't saying that. I also don't believe Sam supports Bin Laden. What neither of you will do is ACKNOWLEDGE that Bin Laden was a terrorist who had it coming. Instead you would rather throw conspiracy to cloud the validity of the attack, turn the perpetrator into a victim and blame those who were either defending themselves or seeking out justice for 9/11. Originally Posted by Mrs.Lucysnow "Believe me Chi I am not trying to change your mind. I imagine if he were brought out alive and placed on trial and admitted guilt you would have still found reason not to cast any blame on him but on the West so... And its the same with Sam. Muslim deaths by other muslims (terrorism) which far outnumber the deaths caused by western troops doesn't concern you at all so you look for any reason to discredit the west or the US (what-have-you)" So where does it come through that you support Bin Laden? You are, as usual, full of shit. You say NOTHING about Bin Laden, you behave as if his conduct is besides the point, Sam does the same, she never would address anything having to do with Bin Laden unless its to stir doubt on any culpability on his part. Go figure.
What ever. These are the same people that IMMEDIATELY cleaned up the world's biggest crime scene at ground zero. Why on earth would they want to keep around the supposed body of the person that they have absolutely no evidence accused of this crime? For anyone interested in FACTS? Here's where facts can be found. http://www.wanttoknow.info/
