As an Atheist what do you teach kids?

Seriously? Is it more arrogant to think that we are here by random chance created out of stardust and utterly unimportant, than it is to think that a god created the universe for our sake?

Would you like to present this subjective evidence for us? Maybe it could change our minds.

I don't think he said that. No.

 

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I'm not going to say that we don't understand how things work, we know quite a bit. I do think evolution can be applied to an understanding of abiogenesis, it can describe how a replicating molecule can improve itself, relative to it's ability to survive and reproduce. We can see primitive forms of evolution happen in RNA which we do not consider living. This kind of thing lends credibility to naturalistic explanations for the origin of life.

What is god in your view? If you can't say what it is, then saying god created the universe is meaningless. It just means you have no idea, and you give your ignorance the label of "god".

You also misuse the term subjective, when I think you meant to say objective, as in objective evidence. Evidence isn't subjective by definition.

 

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Huh? Did I say that?

I would love a source on this. Planets that don't follow the laws of physics. Sounds really interesting.

I don't understand this part. English is my second language. Could you ask it in a less cryptic way?

Speculation.

 

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Supposition.

Are you saying that electricity or water is simply a mechanical process or that these elements exist and under certain conditions they appear? To what extent would you bet that elements such as fire, water, etc. don't exist outside our immediate nature?

 

It's arrogant to seperate god from "the stardust" and I never disagreed on the fact that we are unimportant. That is my proof there is a god. The sheer unimporance of humans. We are so unimportant on a cosmological scale and even we have something as perplexing as a complex level of understanding.

Read my first post in this thread and continue onward. The fact that consciousness exists as a platform is enough evidence to conclude there is a god.

You don't think much, do you?

 

I'm sorry it does not, I understand what your saying and believe in evolution 100% but your comparing apples to oranges.

I said this plenty of times. God is everything you can possibly concieve and the nothing you are obsessed with.

Everything is immaterial there is only experience I suspect as the basis of our physical reality its a more rationale approach than to think that "something" exists anyways or that matter is not exclusive with experience.

Like you said occusm razor or whatever. Lets think of the simplest conclusion to why the essense of consciousness is present in nature

Evidence does not need to be objective ESPECIALLY in regards to the questions being asked hence me saying subjective evidence. It's not verifiable with a third party because the party has to agree what criteria has to be met for something to be considered evidence. Example: I look at the fact that the universe is expanding. I am sure consciousness is evolving and I'm sure one day it will get to the point of us manafacturing reality THUS

I am inclined to believe god allready exists. We get more diverse with genes were all essentially coming from the same place yet we become different. It's just amazing stuff to me that doesent seem random at all yet so in the same sense.

 

So why did a god create the universe?

lol that's funny.

At least I can read though.

 

-Consciousness is threat detection and avoidance system.

-Evolution is not random.

-According to your own statements, you are inadequate to call anything god, since you cannot know what it is or anything about it.

 

1. God is the creation which doesent exclude us.

You can't read in context, apparently.

 

Two facts....

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First, consciousness does require a brain and its processes, and it can surely go away. It is fed by the brain's doings, which may either originate from the internal or the external via the sense.

Stuff really exists out there because the sense and instruments can take it in, plus we can utilize stuff out there to make devices out there that function out there.

As for differences, it's like that the color green in consciousness internally is an e/m frequency/wavelength out there externally. There are also one-to-one re-presentations for "shapes" and "textures" such as given by photon intensity, angles, brightness, and more information.

 

Supposition, and also not possible, as shown.

 

Well that clears it up, than eh!
We have a complex level of consciousness, why? Your premise does not even address the questions asked. Why should we have a threat detection in place to begin with. Why be given a will, consciousness, awareness to the extent we have? Why does it appear to be evolving?? Because there is a "threat" eh...

Easy. Explain how it began than.

According to whom? You? If you say so.

 

Yet another supposition from Sciwriter, nothing is not possible, as shown.

 

Reality is possible. Random beliefs are improbable. As shown.

 

Which is exactly why there is something and why all the things must sum to zero. Take a look at the "elementals" and you will see this.

 

Papaya : Irrelevant.
Sciwriter: Your supposition is noted as possible but highly unlikely. We both have a subjective basis for our belief. Surely your not so arrogant as to believe you are right outside this basis. You have not substantiated any claim you have ever made; so I suspect you know very little and you speculate which is okay because I do as well which makes us one in the same just on different paths. However we are on the same journey.

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There's nothing to make anything out of, thus that is the answer.

Zero-balance: electrons(-)/positrons(+), quarks(+)/anti-quarks(-), and photons (neutral charge). Only two ways to make them, to sum to zero: positive and negative.

Also positive kinetic energy (of stuff) / negative potential energy (of gravity).

God? Nope, just a hope.

The short road ends at the ground-state.

 

Since when is hiding behind a lie better than the truth?

Where does that end logically? Should I lie to someone every time something is wrong to save their feelings?

 

You are officially a crank. Your point does not prove anything.
What is this evidence of?
That god does not exist or that he does exist?
You are clinging on a thread of hope yourself. Can you demonstrate how your supposition is valid or atleast substantiate your point: God is not needed. I am inclined to believe your definition of nothing and my god is one in the same.

Please explain this to me, you don't have to explain "other stuff".