What kind of liar are you?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by KilljoyKlown, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    I keep a note book of daily activity with stuff I need to remember. That helps , but if you don't look at the note book , well you might forget anyway. My dyslexia runs way deeper than spelling . I forget which hand is my right and which hand is my left. I think the dyslexic mind is preoccupied with other thoughts is why it happens. There was a saying , or song , or story that talked about little boys that don't comb there hair . It was all about how combing your hair has nothing to do with achievement. Hard work and dedication does . That was the jest of the saying , story or song ( Don't know which one it was )
     
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  3. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    And this guy....

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    Bernie Madoff

    Typical Conversations this benevolent looking man had.

    Charitable organisation: Bernie, we'd like to put our War Widows Charity under your personal care.

    Bernie: Oh, I'd love to. But the fund is closed at the moment. I can't.

    Charitable organisation: Well Bernie, we understand that, but if any opening becomes available. Well. You know. We'd be grateful.

    A few months later, Bernie, as a personal favour, would accept the money.
    All lost. Worthless.
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But then you weren't lying but only having what you said taken out of context, which isn't a lie. People do that all of the time in the media. They will wait for just the right sentance that someone says during an hour long speech then say that one sentance was what the speech was about. Very bad thing to do and I despise it but it wasn't a lie for after all it was said by the speechmaker.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    How do you call it when people, when accused of something, immediately admit fault but then proceed to lie about the gravity of what they have done.
    At first glance it might look like the opposite of "Exaggeration" but then actual lies may be involved. "Lying by omission" doesn't fit perfectly either.
    Distortion of the truth?
     
  8. John99 Banned Banned

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    optimism.
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    :roflmao:
     
  10. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    What about people who lie to you when they know that you know that they are lying?
    What category is that?
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Barefaced lie

    A barefaced (or bald-faced) lie is one that is obviously a lie to those hearing it. The phrase comes from 17th-century British usage referring to those without facial hair as being seen as particularly forthright and outwardly honest, and therefore more likely to get away with telling a significant lie. A variation that has been in use almost as long is bold-faced lie, referring to a lie told with a straight and confident face (hence "bold-faced"), usually with the corresponding tone of voice and emphatic body language of one confidently speaking the truth. Bold-faced Lie can also refer to misleading or inaccurate newspaper headlines, but this usage appears to be a more recent appropriation of the term.
     
  12. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Contextual lie

    One can state part of the truth out of context, knowing that without complete information, it gives a false impression. Likewise, one can actually state accurate facts, yet deceive with them. To say "yeah, that's right, I ate all the white chocolate, by myself" utilizing a sarcastic, offended tone, may cause the listener to assume the speaker did not mean what he said, when in fact he did.
     
  13. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    True or False:

    A Gollom-like creature had dragged me into the concealed burial chamber of the Queen of the Pyramid, herself nearly half as old as time. Yes, the Egyptians almost had it right, with their potions of elixir brewed to wake the dead, but they erred in embalming and wrapping the deceased, thereby insuring that they would never wake, thus their ‘Book of the Dead’ rather than a ‘Book of Life’.

    My heart fluttered back toward life from the 3000 year-old aroma of the chamber’s tonic air that was the very spirit of life. The ancient Queen bent over me, whispering:

    “This is true, my love, that the lightning again flashes in the light of your eyes. The clouds in my own heart explode with the soft new beating of yours. This is true, my love. Your sweet lips become as red as those of a blushing bride. This is true, my love, that the seed of the tree of life once again flowers within you. Your mind awakens to follow the guiding rhythms of my own pure soul.

    “The night shall ever weep dew at your sight upon the Earth anew, and the morning will surround you with the dawning light of life’s delight. This is true, my love, that the touch of your warm breath intoxicates your every being of life into and out of my spirit as well. This is true, my love, that the world will yet know your melodious songs. Go forth, my dear twice-born one to walk the Earth once more and help to bring evil to its knees.”
     
  14. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    There may be a lot of names for lying, but deception of any kind is a lie even if 99.9% of what was said was the truth. It make defending the lie easier because it's harder to get caught when most everything you said was the truth. Also a good liar knows the victim. If the victim cares about the person who is the liar, the victim wants very much to believe the liar. Again, “just like taking candy from a baby”, over and over again until it's termed a pattern of abuse.
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Deception is not always an outright lie though.
     
  16. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Please explain. Also what is the difference between any type lie and an outright lie?
     
  17. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Definately pallid lies.
     
  18. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Is that the same as a boring lie?
     
  19. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    Hey now that sounds like Me the house pet. Ever watch that show House? Now that character portrays what you are saying pretty good. Thank Me for T.V. Na. It was a guy that lived in Idaho I think. Seems like Riggins Idaho was the place attributed to the birth of the inventor of the Television . Might be wrong ? I think I am right though. Yeah that's right.

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  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    That seems unlikely.
    Neither Zworykin nor Baird were born in the US.
    Farnsworth was, but not in Idaho.
     
  21. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    It's obvious that somebodies lying here. Damn! Where's the forum cops when you need them?

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  22. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    What would I do with out you? I love you! You are the best.

    Farnsworth: The family moved to a farm in " Rigby Idaho" in 1918
    Farnsworth excelled in Chemistry and physics at Rigby Idaho high school
     
  23. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    What about those people that believe in something completely delusional and defend it as a truth? Technically it's a truth to them, only a lie to other observers.

    Or a person that dreams of a particular career choice and plans to do it, yet decades later they still plan the same career but haven't gone any further with that choice?
     

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