Civility in Political Discourse.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buffalo Roam, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    We have all heard the lecture fro Obama about civility in political discourse, and the myriad of liberals in the media and on this forum who have pointed that accusation at the Tea Party, Conservatives, and Republicans.

    The Gov.. Palin was out of bound and encouraging violence because cross hairs were used in a campaign add, well let see what comes from the Union Democrat Thugs when they don't get their way.

    Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your families
    Will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks.


    Seems like the liberals are encouraging absolute lethal force as a political method.

    http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/117732923.html
    The unedited E-Mail addressed to the Elected Officials of the State of Wisconsin;

    Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes
    will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks
    . Please explain
    to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it
    will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit
    that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for
    more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.

    WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in
    the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me
    have decided that we've had enough. We feel that you and the people that
    support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing
    with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand
    for it any longer. So, this is how it's going to happen: I as well as many
    others know where you and your family live, it's a matter of public records.
    We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a
    nice little bullet in your head.
    However, we decided that we wouldn't leave
    it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the
    message to you since you are so "high" on Koch and have decided that you are
    now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a
    demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed
    in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent.
    This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won't
    tell you all of them because that's just no fun. Since we know that you are
    not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided
    to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it's
    necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making
    them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families
    and themselves then We Will "get rid of" (in which I mean kill) you. Please
    understand that this does not include the heroic Rep. Senator that risked
    everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. We feel
    that it's worth our lives to do this, because we would be saving the lives
    of 300,000 people. . Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and
    say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. YOU WILL DIE!!!!

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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like a typical right-wing ploy.
     
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  5. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    No Mr. Goat, it is all left wing.
     
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  7. Gustav Banned Banned

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    hmm

    typical right-wing ploy>>>>>...YOU WILL DIE!!!!
    typical right-winger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Buffalo Roam
    Buffalo Roam>>>>>>>>>>>>...YOU WILL DIE!!!!


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  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    If it were the right then why are they against the Republicans, which all tend to be on the right? :shrug:
     
  10. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Some anonymous kook doesn't represent "the liberals" in the way that Sarah Palin represents the Teabaggers. One of those two people is a nobody with no particular mandate to speak for anyone, and the other is an openly-embraced leader of a political movement.

    Indeed, there's little in the text of that threat to suggest it wasn't written by an angry Teabagger, who feels sold out that GOP politicians elected on a "limited government and individual rights" sentiment are using their position to push heavy-handed big-government measure that strip people of their rights. The only thing that really suggests it's any kind of self-identified "liberal" is the "high on Koch" comment - everything else seems plucked directly from the violent Teabag rhetoric. I.e., if I were to rank the possible sources by likelihood, it would go something like: 1) false flag by Teabaggers 2) Loony Teabagger who feels betrayed by GOP fascists he helped elect 3) actual angry liberal.
     
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  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That's what you write when you pretend to be a violent liberal.
     
  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know?
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    WTMJ is a conservative radio station.

    "overnights WTMJ airs syndicated personalities such as Dennis Miller, Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham," (wikipedia)
     
  14. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    while I wouldn't put it past the right wing to manufacture this. it seems to be just an extremely pissed of everyday union person angry about how the right wing as assualted his rights. that being said bufflo their aren't any union thugs any more that ended after the mob was broken up. and also I suggest you study your history. far more violence has been committed by people like you against union people and strikers than the reverse.
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It is right out of the turd blossom playbook. This is how they want to portray unions, when actually what the cons are doing now is doing wonders for union organizing. The people are starting to understand the con agenda: rob the treasury, give it to the rich, and establish a permanent dictatorship of the right.
     
  16. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    My impression?
    One lone nutter, not a legit threat.

    But then again, that's generally going to be a safe bet to play, as 90% of bomb threats are just threats.

    Does that make it okay? no.

    Some drunk girl called up my job and said they had rigged my car to explode this year.
    I tell you, I had a really good look at my car before I cranked it, even though I knew full well it was behind a seven-foot iron perimeter fence.

    Do I think it was some sort of right-wing false-flag op? I dunno, let's see whet the FBI turns up.
    Until then I'm gray-filing it.
     
  17. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I love it, all the left wingers on the forum, who tried to make the Tea Party out to be so uncivil and dangerous, now find every excuse in the book for dismissing their owns actions.

    It wasn't just one threat, it was multiple threats, and the actions went further than E-Mails.

    Ammo found outside Wis. Capitol, site of protests - Worldnews.com
    Mar 3, 2011 ... Ammo found outside Wis. Capitol, site of protests ... Albanian village, north of the Albanian capital, after an ammunitions dump exploded. ...

    http://article.wn.com/view/2011/03/03/Ammo_found_outside_Wis_Capitol_site_of_protests_8/ - 258k - Cached - Similar pages


    Democrat Congressman Jay Nixon Assassination Attempt By Casey Brezik
    “Missouri governor was intended target of stabbing at MCC-Penn Valley,” reads the headline of the Kansas City Star on September 16th, 2010. It was a Tuesday when a community college student, Casey Brezik, 22, slashed the dean’s throat in a failed assassination attempt on the Missouri Governor, Jay Nixon. The college’s dean, Al Dimmitt was mistaken for the Governor, and viscously attacked by a left-wing radical who was attempting to murder Jay Nixon.

    http://www.kevinwebb22.com/politics...t-by-left-wing-radical-gets-no-media-coverage

    DEMOCRAT /LEFT – LINKED VIOLENCE

    1.Mass. Sen. Charles Sumner beaten by S. Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks over perceived insults made in speech by Brooks (1856).

    2.John Wilkes Booth (anti-Republican Democrat) assassination of Abraham Lincoln.

    3.Southern night riders and the KKK during Reconstruction and into the mid-1900s. (Democrats) – question: do we count each of the lynchings as separate acts of violence?

    4.Chicago Haymarket riot (1886)

    5.Pres. McKinley’s 1901 assassination by Leon Frank Czolgosz (Leftwing anarchist)

    6.Sedition Act of 1918 by Woodrow Wilson (Progressive Democrat)

    7.Assassination attempt on FDR, killing Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak, by Guiseppe Zangara in 1933 (left-wing anarchist)

    8.FDR’s internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII (Democrat progressive)

    9.FALN attack against Pres. Harry Truman (communist)

    10.Sheriff Bull Connors, Gov. George Wallace (Democrats)

    11.John Kennedy’s assassin Lee Harvey Oswald (communist)

    12.Pres. Johnson’s “War on Poverty”

    13.1968 Democrat Convention

    14.Robert Kennedy’s assassin Sirhan Sirhan (leftwing Palestinian supporter)

    15.Sarah Jane Moore’s attempted assassination of Pres. Gerald Ford

    16.Berkeley People’s Park riot in 1969 (campus socialists, communists and anarchists)

    17.Students for a Democratic Society aka SDS (communist)

    18.Bombing (1970) of Math Center at University of Wisconsin-Madison (anti-war communists)

    19.Symbionese Liberation Army (communists)

    20.American Indian Movement (AIM) killing of FBI agents at Wounded Knee (socialist American Indian activists)

    21.The Weathermen, incl. Dohrn and Ayers (communist)

    22.Puerto Rican terrorist group FALN bombings (communist)

    23.Black Panthers (Left-wing socialist/communist)

    24.James Jones of Jonestown fame (apostolic socialism)

    25.Earth Liberation Front (ELF)

    26.Attack on Branch Davidians (Janet Reno, Clinton Administration)

    27.Ted Kaczynski – Unabomber (leftwing anarchist and environmental fanatic, Gore acolyte)

    28.Left-wing violence, destruction and physical assaults at 1999 G-20 meeting in Seattle.

    29.Attack on Washington, D.C. Holocaust Memorial by James Wenneker von Brunn (anti-U.S. socialist sympathizer)

    30.Left-wing violence, destruction, physical assaults and weapons convictions at 2008 Republican Convention in Minneapolis.

    31.Joe Stack, Austin IRS bomber (anti-Republican, anti-capitalist, anti-wealthy people)

    32.Physical attacks on conservative speakers at university campuses

    33.Multiple physical attacks against Tea Party rallies by SEIU and others (2009).

    34.Shooting of pro-life demonstrator James Pouillon in Owosso, MI (2009)

    35.Physical assault by S. Carolina Rep. Bob Etheridge against student, caught on video.

    36.Discovery Center attack and hostage-taking by James Lee in Sept. 2010 (leftwing environmentalist)

    http://www.bookwormroom.com/2011/01/09/political-violence-from-whence-does-it-emanate/
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    This was the action of right wing radicals, you can be sure of that. (your list is retarded)
     
  19. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    how can you say that its retarded. it only includes some right wingers ( really a slavery era democrat as a left winger) and foriegn groups attacks.


    we all knew he was going to use dishonest reaching to attempt to prove his non sense.




    and buffalo please quit trying to steal the ending of slavery for the right wing. liberals ended slavery and jim crow just like we have been behind every improvment of life through out history
     
  20. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Really spider? who is protesting the actions of the Legislature?

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    Not the majority of the People in Wisconsin who voted the Democrats out of Power.
     
  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    True, but they never voted for the governor to take away peoples rights when they elected him did they? He just doesn't want to try and work out any "deal" with the unions and that doesn't make sense to me.
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Irrelevant. It's a fake message by right wing operatives intended to make union supporters look bad.
     
  23. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It's like the KKK guys in the robes with their easily identifiable shoes and boots showing,

    or the Nam-era FBI agents trying to blend in with anti-war protesters via their carefully circumscribed "disheveled" looking haircuts and clean, even pressed, "casual" clothes, saying "man" a lot, etc,

    the Tea Party guys cannot quite get their anonymous threat rhetoric to blend in with actual "liberal" ranting from a teacher's union.

    I bolded some of the funnier items (the failure to spellcheck is just beside the point). The overall attempt to imitate the way some long-despised teacher talked, or the way their local radio guy talked when playing a teacher on air, is kind of sweet in a way - it reads like a high school essay assignment: they know they're trying to ape a higher rung on the social ladder, and they're self-conscious about it.

    http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/117732923.html
    The unedited E-Mail addressed to the Elected Officials of the State of Wisconsin;

     
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