Where is the organized Left in the U.S.?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by parmalee, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. Leh Registered Member

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    If successful parties are organized, political strategy being a prerequisite of gaining power, we'd have a difficult time considering any movement with a prime time record disorganized.

    It may be more a matter of moral resolve masquerading as heightened organization on the right. Robert Reich recently opined* that US Republicans tend to react to political difficulty by moving further to the right whereas US Democrats will react to the same by approaching the domestic center. Keep in mind that a right wing ideologue is the quintessential reactionary in a traditional sense.



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  3. desi Valued Senior Member

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    The left got Obama and national healthcare. They're doing pretty well.
     
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  5. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    national health care, you mean the mass give away to insurance companies??? obama bailed on most of his left promises and we certainly do not have a national health care system
     
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  7. dbnp48 Q.E.D. Registered Senior Member

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    How is a "national health care system" different from the Obama program?
     
  8. Gustav Banned Banned

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    i think the afl-cio still makes the right noises within its sphere of influence despite whatnot
     
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    I thought Americans still have to buy insurance to cover medical care.
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    a national health care system is one over reaching system that everyone is a part off or connected too. what we have is basicly just forcing us to buy into different system( companies)
     
  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    You don't pay much attention to anyone actually on the left, apparently.

    Installing rightwing friends of Goldman Sachs in the Presidency (even moderate or competent ones) and massive government support for corporate insurance and drug companies, are not exactly parts of a left agenda.
     
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    look carefully at those faces
    they probably are the ones that gave the wisconsin govt over to the rebublican nazis. ja, the faces of retarded schiltz drinking cheese eaters soon to be beaten up and killed by the national guard

    serves the fuckers right
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    There is no way in hell the National Guard would agree to breaking up this peaceful demonstration.
     
  17. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Those violent Tea Partiers...


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  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    They can dish it out, but they can't take it?
     
  19. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    So it's up in arms when the "Tea Party" does it, and murders are blamed on it, although when put into a corner, no one will come out and place the blame squarely on them?

    But when leftists (for lack of a better term) do it, it's just retribution...

    How bout get angry at both, or neither? If you're gonna blame one side, why give the other side a free pass? Two wrongs now make it all right?

    Or is it wrong to begin with?

    But anyhow.

    There is not a thread currently on this Wisconsin thing, so I'll just ask right now: what is actually at stake? So far I have seen that the governor of the state wants to increase the amount of money (deduction from salary) paid into state workers' pension and healthcare funds, for one thing. It looks to me like they already pay a pittance.

    Now, removing certain rights for workers to collectivize isn't something I'm about either. We don't need to go back to the dark ages. But, maybe unions have gained too much strength in certain areas? Certainly if/when workers are forced to join a union when they are hired.

    This subject deserves a larger thread.

    For now, call me when there are mass layoffs of public workers. This doesn't look like one of those times.

    My opinion, for those who give a f***: the issue needs to be JOBS. Period. This country has been sold out to the lowest bidder, it seems, and so government services are a reflection of that. We will have almost no rights as citizens at all if this country continues to outsource, continues to spend on it's foreign policy, etc, and continues to value worthless financial institutions and the monetary voodoo they engage in.
     
  20. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Where have you BEEN for the past four years?

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  21. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    No, those are the faces of Union drones following the Union Queen Bees.
     
  22. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly, the left always wants to dish it out, but they don't have the guts to eat from the same dish.
     
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