US porn film makers suspend filming over HIV scare

really into sex? or really into watching other people have sex?

the way i see it, sex should be a discovery process between two people which promotes a deeper intimacy than just the physical.

and the way i see it, if you can't figure out how to fuck without watching a porn video, then you're retarded, and you shouldn't be spreading your dna around anyway.

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i invite everyone to read these articles...the actors and actresses testimonies in particular.

http://www.shelleylubben.com/shelleys-articles

 

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now let me add a rhetorical question. to all who think that porn is just okey-dokey, would you want your son or daughter in the industry? why not? and if it's not ok for your son or daughter then why in the hell do you think it's ok for anyone else's son or daughter? because EVERYONE is SOMEONE'S son or daughter. grrrrrr.....

 

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Porn is a pretty big industry Lori, so obviously a LOT of people find it enjoyable.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/21/60minutes/main585049.shtml

I'm not sure why you think it is so bad, and I'm sure you can come up with some people who have legitimate complaints with some of the companies involved in it, because in any industry there will be outliers, but from what I gather a LOT of decent people make good money in the industry and aren't into drugs etc.

If I look at the crime stats and the growing availability of porn, what I see is the two trends going in the opposite direction. Don't think that that proves they are related, but it does suggest that porn doesn't drive criminal actions.

Arthur

 

i don't really care so much if it drives criminal actions; i think it IS a criminal action.

do you have a daughter?

 

What's criminal about adults allowing other adults watch them having consensual sex?

Arthur

 

because it objectifies human beings and reduces something sacred and valuable to the equivalent of taking a shit.

DO YOU HAVE A DAUGHTER?

 

Don't believe everything you hear.

Porn is small compared to the mainstream film industry.

Which is why big stars are paid 10s of millions of dollars to be in a big Hollywood movie.

They make 100 porn films for that amount, including paying the actors, and they will never make it to anything but "art houses" and of course, DVDs.

Arthur

 

Well I disagree, but none the less, taking a shit, in the privacy of your own home, isn't criminal.

Arthur

 

:wallbang:

 

it wasn't a snide remark about having a daughter. it was a legitimate question that i asked twice, and blatantly did not receive an answer to, which i can only assume is a way of avoiding the extremely valid point i'm making.

also, i said that porn reduced sex to the equivalent of taking a shit, and his response was that taking a shit isn't a crime. my point is that reducing sex down to taking a shit is.

the emoticon expresses frustration, and that's all i had left to say. :shrug:

and that is NOT trolling.

 

Lori,
I owe you no details about my family and so it's just too bad that you think you are entitled to that kind of information or make assumptions because I don't provide it.
Arthur

 

http://www.forbes.com/2001/05/25/0524porn.html

The Business Of Smut: What Is It Worth?
Adult Video $500 million to $1.8 billion
Internet $1 billion
Pay-Per-View $128 million
Magazines $1 billion
Total $2.6 billion to $3.9 billion

Sources: Adams Media Research, Forrester Research, Veronis Suhler Communications Industry Report, IVD

To put the Porn industry in perspective, just ONE mainstream movie, Dead Man's Chest came away as the top-earning movie of 2006 and brought in more than $1 billion in worldwide receipts.

Arthur

 

i was referring to the point i made in post #23, and i think it's extremely valid.

i was speaking figuratively, OF COURSE, about the shit, and the crime. what i mean is, and i have explained this in previous posts, that porn takes something (sex) that should be valued and meaningful, creating an intimate bond between people that goes way beyond the physical, and reduces it down to nothing but a physical (and degrading imo) act.

just because a lot of people don't agree, or don't want to hear what i'm saying, does not mean i'm out of line.

 

fine. you could have said that. you could have said something. we could have done a hypothetical right? i wasn't trying to offend you, or gather details about your family. i was trying to make a point, that i bet you actually agree with. if you have a daughter, i'd bet damn good money you wouldn't want her anywhere near the porn industry. and if you would, then you're a creep. case closed. i'm outta here.

 

To answer your question, no, I wouldn't want my hypothetical daughter to go into porn. But that's true of plenty of careers, and it doesn't mean that they are "criminal" careers, or that the people who work in them are immoral. Much like being a janitor or any other low-status job, going into porn is usually a sign that a person's life as gone pretty seriously off-track. There's also a very heavy social stigma to working in the porn industry that is far out of proportion to any actual "harm" that the industry does to society, which is something that I would hope my daughter could avoid. If the porn industry were a respected, well-paying profession, then I probably wouldn't have a problem with my hypothetical daughter doing it.

As for the original topic (HIV in porn), the odds of contracting HIV from someone during a single incidence of sex with an infected person are actually very low. It's unlikely that it would lead to an "epidemic" in the porn industry.