Opera Browser slow on Mac

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  1. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    I've used opera on both my mac and windows for several years. i tend to like it alot except for occasional html complexities or something that don't always work right. hopefully those will be resolved with the latest release.

    Anyhow, Opera had been acting slow lately on my Mac, no problem with the Windows version.

    I completely deleted all traces of old Opera and installed the latest version.
    While it seems to be operating okay now, one major problem. Text typing is very slow!

    Like typing this sentence here would take almost a minute to fully appear!
    It does that in both text fields and in the Opera Notepad. It really murders the usefulness of the browser.

    I do not have this problem anywhere else in any other program. Safari works fine. It is only in Opera. And it only seems to have started last week sometime. I have no frickin clue what's up with that.

    Good luck on this one!
     
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  3. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    And I suppose I'll throw this in as well: having trouble on ALL browsers using the multi-quote function on Sciforums. If I multi-quote, only the last quote shows up.
     
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  5. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Also Opera doesn't work very well with Digg, and with most banking sites. A shame...
     
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  7. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    I read in a study somewhere that people's brains actually run slower on a Mac as well.
     
  8. superstring01 Moderator

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    Ha!

    I'm a Firefox fan, myself.

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  9. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    It seems to have problems with some online forms like shopping sites for some reason. Doesn't happen often, but when it does, I just use another browser like IE or on the mac, Safari.

    Well, that explains it quite well, doesn't it.

    I've thought about it, but I'm kind of adapted to Opera.
    I suppose if worse comes to worst...


    On the other subject, can anyone explain why multi-quote is not working?
     
  10. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    I use Google Chrome.
    Not very complex but fastest.
     
  11. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, Chrome is very popular in the Linux circle. I personally prefer having a more complete interface--buttons and such. I rather like Firefox. It's not as fast as Chrome, but it's reliable and meets most needs.
     
  12. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently Slate.com doesn't work very well with Opera either. I hate to switch browsers for just one website, specially when the comments are in so small print that I need to use the magnifying feature of Opera but Chrome doesn't have it...
     
  13. firdroirich A friend of The Friends Registered Senior Member

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    I've always had a soft spot for Opera, but FF has the best extensions for me so I tend to use it more. Chrome just has too little options for me.... what's speed with no control?
     
  14. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I have a soft spot too. It's like one of the least used web browsers, I figure I had to take it in. I started using it about five years ago and have just gotten so accustomed to it that I really don't want to use any other. The rare instance I can't get a website to work right isn't enough to make me want to switch over.

    Except maybe the stupid hangup on my Mac. My Windows version is fine, but I can't for the life of me figure out why text typing is so damn slow for the last week or so! It doesn't make sense to me. Apparently no one knows what would cause it?

    I scanned the computer for any viruses twice in the last week. Only one showed up and that's basically the first time I've ever done a full scan. And only Opera is affected by this peculiarity.



    What do you like about Firefox as compared to something like Opera?
     
  15. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Soft spot for the browser in your heart is good, being able to use websites is better. Seriously, not being able to read websites is annoying as hell, and lately they have this automatic updates when they are trying to force you you upgrade to the newer version.
     
  16. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    Run a registry cleaner,clear browsing data and runs an anti-spyware program.
     
  17. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently Steve Jobs doesn't like anti-spyware programs.

    Seriously, do Mac's even have a registry? Or is this one of those funny new things Mac's are designed to do without telling you? As a feature?
     
  18. river-wind Valued Senior Member

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    Macs don't have a registry. Thank god.


    http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2010/03/19/mac-stability-improvements
    From those comments, I'm wondering if it's an Opera-build issue.

    What version of OSX are you running?


    Are you seeing slowdowns in any other application? When this slowdown occurs, what is your CPU load like? Are you able to enter text in firefox fine while Opera is stuck in the slow-down state?

    What sort of plug-ins do you have installed in Opera?


    edit: according to the Opera changelogs, there was a "slow typing" issue fixed in Opera 10 Beta 5 for OSX 10.4
     
  19. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    It was having the problem before I upgraded a week ago.
    My version is 10.4.x not sure, not on the Mac at this time.


    Well, dude, if you had actually read my previous posts (

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    no prob, guy!), I mention several times that only Opera seems to have this issue.

    It seems I did check CPU once or twice and hadn't noticed anything in particular. CPU on both Mac and Windows goes up quite a bit when a web page is running video or some animated script. That has been, I think, causing problems with speed issues sometimes.
    However, Opera doesn't seem to be doing to bad now after the upgrade except that when typing out text in a search engine or something, the individual letters appear roughly two or three at a time every five seconds or so, making an entire sentence take about half a minute to fully appear. It's really weird.


    I'm guessing I have a mentally challenged keylogger that XYZ agency put on it, and it's a slow reader?!?!?

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    WOW!

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    Interesting. I had just upgraded to 10, and had actually considered the beta. Hmmm. I guess I was not counting on it being a build issue with Opera itself, being such a strange glitch! I didn't expect that any error would be so easy to find. I probably should have thought of that? I DID post a message on the Opera newsgroup and no one to my knowledge answered it. Guess there aren't that many Mac users on there!

    Thank you! I will check it out later and report the results here.
     
  20. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Which one is that? There are multiple opera 10.x versions, and several betas.

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    I already have 10.6.

    Where did you see that supposed error? I looked for instances of "text" and didn't see anything about slow or delayed text.

    So, is it some trojan or other undisclosed thing? I've run a free virus scanner recently, only found one thing and that was it.

    I've contemplated just reinstalling everything. Don't want to, but :shrug:

    How many mac users around here have actually had problems with unwanted guests? Viruses, malware, etc? The fact that Apple doesn't even provide the bare bones and almost no free programs exist doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.
     
  23. river-wind Valued Senior Member

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    Search for "slow typing". given that you are on Opera 10.60 already, I'd say this is a code fork problem in Opera, and they aren't aware of it. Contact Opera and let them know your system specs (CPU, ram, etc (in Apple Menu "About this Mac"), your OS version, Opera version) and a description of the problem.

    As for trojans/viruses - while there certainly can be trojans/viruses for the Mac, its small market share has made it an unworthy target for attack thusfar. As such, I'm inclined to believe your free virus scan result was a fraudulent attempt to get you to buy some software you didn't actually need. What was the name of the item the scan flagged as a problem? What was the scanning tool?

    OSX is not immune to attack, however a number of basic design choices made by Unix back int he 80's make it significantly harder for malware etc to function. Namely, the everyday user does not have administrator level privileges. Note how you have to enter your password before you install software updates on the mac; this is the system temporarily elevating your permissions level in order to do the installation. A program can't hide the installation process like it can on Windows. (Windows 7's UAC is a step in this direction, but still needs work). OSX does also include signature files for what known trojans there are in a file called XProtect.plist - this helps identify any threats which you may encounter, however they are only included in new updates of the system (10.6.4 is current), so I don't think it's available for OS 10.4.

    The main danger on OSX is social engineering. If someone tricks you into telling your computer to install something, the computer can't protect you. That's a danger on any system. The only way to avoid being tricked is to simply be aware of what you download/install.

    For example, I'm currently aware of only two OS X malware apps, and both work by tricking you; asking seemingly innocuous questions which actually give the program increase permissions on the system. In order to become "infected" with one of these two trojans, you have to do all of the following:
    1) download installer for a "screensaver" app, or download a supposedly hacked iPhoto application from a peer to peer or torrent site.
    2) install application
    3) run application
    4) Say "OK" to dialog box asking permission to download additional files.
    http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/bert/2010-06-02/os-x-malware-might-have-legs

    edit: as for "reinstalling everything", that shouldn't be needed. I've been on OS X since 1999, had 5 different machines, and have only done a clean OS install once (moving from Power PC to Intel). If you want to re-install the OS, you can use your install disks to perform an "archive and install" with the "preserve users and settings" option checked - this will install a clean OS without effecting your files or applications. It just replaces all the OS files in case something has been corrupted or altered by a program in a way it shouldn't have been.
     
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