Netanyahu aide: Israel using Collective Punishment on children of Gaza because parent

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  1. Shadow1

    Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    i'm not against that, also, do you call them terrorists because they are trying to destroy the invader that kills their children and people?


    better than suffering under israeil, ever heard that my ennemy's ennemy is my friend? it doesnt matter how would they defend their country, they can first get rid of israeil, step by step, just like tunisia in the past, it used the french invation, to get rid of the bay(like you call a king), then, they get rided of french invation, and established a presidentional system and democracy, two birds by one stone.

    ...:bugeye:
     
    Shadow1, Jul 12, 2010
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  3. Shadow1

    Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    bullshit
     
    Shadow1, Jul 12, 2010
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  5. StrawDog

    StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    You can do better than that. C`mon I miss you. :m:
     
    StrawDog, Jul 12, 2010
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    It may be helpful to the discussion if you could share your reasoning as to how you come to this conclusion? :m:
     
    StrawDog, Jul 13, 2010
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  8. quadraphonics

    quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Your attempts to undermine The Voice of Justice and thereby disguise your Vile Zionist Agenda will never shake the Righteous Resolution of The Resistance. In the end you will burn with all the other Rapists.
     
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  9. Gustav

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  10. Crunchy Cat

    Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    The world calls them terrorists because of their exclusive use of violence against civilians in order to attain religious / political goals.

    Thier choice may lead to their extinction.
     
    Crunchy Cat, Jul 13, 2010
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    they would not be "terrorists" if they directed this "violence" at non-civilian targets to achieve their goals?

    are you justifying that kind of "violence"?

    /smirk
     
    Gustav, Jul 13, 2010
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  12. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    How so? you could argue that. maybe not well or strongly but you can make that argument logically.
     
    pjdude1219, Jul 13, 2010
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  13. Bells

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    Which is ironic really. We try to ram democracy down other people's throats but when they elect someone we don't like, we stop viewing them as human beings and consider collective punishment against their children to be acceptable.


    Okay.. But what about granting rights to the rest of the Palestinians not living in Gaza?

    Why punish the people for having no real choice because others have forced them into this position?


    I see.

    Let me tell you something spider, when an armed forces specifically targets small children over and over again, whether in conflict or not, then their parents are going to get pissy and want to kill those who are killing and harming their children. Now, the more Israel collectively punishes the Palestinians, the more terrorists they are going to breed.


    They don't need to teach their children spider. Those children are born in occupation. They don't have enough food. They can't get a proper education. They can't even have toys that my children take for granted. They don't have a childhood. They are forced to live in refugee camps and ghettos and are constantly harrassed by their occupiers, who will at time take pot shots at them and kill them, or kidnap them. Israel is reaping what it has sown and it will continue to reap if it maintains the same practice it has maintained thus far.

    I'd be pissed off. So you can understand the Palestinian's anger then? You know, since their children are not only shot walking to and from school, their schools are also often targetted by the IDF. Let me put it this way, if this were my kid, I'd take out as many of those who did it to her as I could and I'd do it with a smile on my face:

    So how do they breed terrorists again? If Israel acted with a minute sense of humanity, Hamas would not exist. Israel could take the high ground, but has instead chosen to target children.

    So it is more acceptable to kill other people's children because you are nostalgic about that real estate? You do realise that's what the Israeli Government is doing, don't you?

    So Israel kills children for that real estate?


    No. They have imposed a blockade on the populace, which is slowly killing them. So tell me, how many Palestinian children need to die so a settler can enjoy a sea view from his home?

    Then you should move to Israel. I can assure you, it would be guarranteed there. Even if they have to shoot a little children to ensure it.

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  14. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    good post and thanks for focusing on the thing people like spider like to ignore or pretend doesn't exist the why of the palestinians actions. they need them to be inhuman monsters because if they are not than the have to come to terms for what it is they brutally attacked, killed, maimed, and occupied another people with zero legal justification simply because they wanted their land.
     
    pjdude1219, Jul 13, 2010
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  15. Crunchy Cat

    Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Correct.

    I am labeling that particular brand of violence.
     
    Crunchy Cat, Jul 13, 2010
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  16. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    how can it be terrorism if it is not intended to cause fear to coerce?
     
    pjdude1219, Jul 13, 2010
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  17. Crunchy Cat

    Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Don't know. Do you have an example of that in mind?
     
    Crunchy Cat, Jul 13, 2010
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  18. spidergoat

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    Sorry, there is no Democracy when one of the parties is also a militia. I reiterate, no one is calling the Palestinians less than human. It's just that their administration is a militant terrorist group, which must be controlled. There is no evidence that children were specifically targeted. Yes, they get shot, but their parents let them run around in the street, tagging behind armed men, watching the firefights...who's fault is that? You say if Israel acted with humanity none of this would have occurred, and I disagree. It is Israel's very existence which offends Hamas.

    (I have lived in Israel)
     
    spidergoat, Jul 13, 2010
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  19. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    an example of what something not designed to cause fear and coerce being called terrorism?
     
    pjdude1219, Jul 13, 2010
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  20. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    sure their is.
     
    pjdude1219, Jul 13, 2010
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  21. spidergoat

    spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I guess not one of you has actually lived there or had to go down to a bomb shelter in the middle of the night. You don't know what it means to live in fear of terrorism or that people are going to attack you because you look Jewish. You're a bunch of armchair critics about something with which you have no experience.
     
    spidergoat, Jul 13, 2010
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  22. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    irrelevant.
    funny because the palestinians have to live in fear of being killed by your "moral" people becuase they look arab.
    I don't have to have been their to know your killing them and stealing them are wrong.


    quit being a spoiled child and whining about the consequences of your actions. you wanted to attack the palestinians they are going to fight back. Grow up as a people and accept responsibility for what you have done.
     
    pjdude1219, Jul 13, 2010
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  23. Crunchy Cat

    Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    You're the one whose asking a how question. I'm just asking for a what to base the how on.
     
    Crunchy Cat, Jul 13, 2010
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