If or when you reach an epiphany on the matter you'll come to understand that the Qur'an is far from perfect. At that time you'll finally come to realize that what you really liked about the Qur'an all this time was thinking that it is. It's a phase probably every atheist has passed through. I wonder, if you were taught that the Qur'an is a work in progress (and not a perfect final revelation) if you'd still find Sura-108 soon utterly illuminating, or, if you'd pause to think you could do better? If you want to progress, you'll first need to untangle yourself from this last bit of dogma :shrug:
Or maybe you might read sura 109 properly and realise that this is what tolerance is all about. Meanwhile, its quite an appropriate quote here: Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
. if we want to progress? sorry dude, we are progressing, i'm talkin about tunisia, morroco, algeria, libya, we are progressing by our own, tunisia is already on the top of arab countries in the life level and technology, also we have many scientific centers, that gives some results, but still young, they are groswing good, also we still progressing dude, go educate your self, get to know to us first, then come to talk. you're talking about progress? then why u.s.a. is going behind? it's melting, and china is going up.
. what about me? hehehehehe Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! i'm not a relegious guy, but i can try, i know good
wait, sorry, islam is not a politicl system! the prophet mohamed, or the quran, didn't say anythign about the ruling system, didnt say anything abiut khilafa, democracy, or whtever you think, it did say some laws, like who steel something, while he didnt had to, or she, cut he's hand, not all of the hand, the part that have fingers, inless he was poor and he had to steel, or he had to steel cause he havent money, and he stealed a medecine, he stealed what he needed because he had too, don't forget this part! who kill someone, for no reason, for no ggod reason(the good reason is self defence, but he killed him, because he was defending him self, and he really had to kill him, don't forget the reasons, a killer don't have to be killed always, but the killer who killed someone because he was a witness, or for fun(oh yeah, there are some sick people that kills for fun, but there's not in my country, or the nearby countries thankgod anyway, you get my point right? islam didnt say anything about the ruling system, or the embassies, or the presidentiol system, or the democracy, or the king ruling! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
. oh, just one more thing, their's a miss translation their, in the verses, kafer, doesn't always mean the inbeleiver, wich in arab, kafer, means, an infidel, and an infidel, is not always an inbelieiver, an infidel, is who do bad thing, who hearts the society, who hearts people, who rape people, and and and... do the bad things that heart others, some people think that infidels are the christians and jews, but, it's bullshit! and we don't hate jews, we hate the israeili zionists, there's a difference, but some ignorers, i see sometimes on the net, do hate all jews, but that's not right, i'm a muslim, my uncle is a muslim, and his wife is christian, also i know some jew people, and they are all as kind as anyone else.
The difference is you are now able to be anti-semetic without being politically incorrect. Zionism now serves the same purpose as the scapegoating of Jews in Europe or the Cold War, (or the War on Terra) a distraction from internal problems and unity around a common enemy.
. waw, but i know a few jews in tunisia, that they are not even with israeil, they are with palastinians, and they're against israeilian acts, there's not much jews in tunisia, but a few, and i know some of the few. and they are just tunisians as anyone else, and who i know, are against israeil. well, who knows, it's a craizy world we're living in
No, I did not. In fact not only invented that I said that, but you just made up the word "endarken". Next time, if you're going to strawman, at least use words that exist! It follows the idea that women are temptresses of men, and creates a punishment for something they do not do. It's like giving you a sentence for drunk driving the moment you are born of a certain sex or eye color. I sustain the idea the hijab is oppressive. It is patriarchical gender oppression become extreme. Irrelevant. Even if the current president did absolutely nothing about it and defended it as GWB, the fact that it created uproar throughout the Western world demonstrates my point.
There's a *subtle* difference between a wide interpretation of "Be good to parents, relatives, orphans, and the needy. Speak kindly and pay the poor-due" and "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not." It is "strongly suggested" in each example to be nice, and be nasty, respectively. It is a great danger to write, say, "Kick the asses of left-handed people", in a book subject to interpretation. Interpretation or not, more, much more than likely you are going to have people who say, "Hey, it says here, "Kick the asses of left-handed people", and, ya know what, I'll just do that, because I really want to be a good follower! The best, to the letter!". That's the problem of having "sacred" books, you are not allowed to reject for fear of hellfire, books that also have atrocious "suggestions". I put quotation marks around "suggestions" quite on purpose. If I were to "suggest" and not "command", I would say, "Hey you know what, you might want to consider choking your cat if you think that will help", and not, "Verily I say to you, choke thy cat!".
The Bible doesn't explicitly say to drive gas-guzzling SUVs, but the concept that the Earth was made just for us combined with a disprespect for science because it contradicts Genesis influences many Christians to do so.
Nonsense. Zionism, as defined in the "current policies of the State of Israel", is discriminatory and criticism thereof does not equate to anti Semitism.
Indeed, there are millions of Jews, from all corners of the globe, including Israel, who are critical of Israeli policies. (may G_d be with them) :m:
He he. The pleasures of my literary forays are for all to enjoy. :m: Actually in essence, apart from the fact that Allah (pbuh) wills it, it follows the idea that woman are to be seen in terms greater than physicality, including mind and personality, as opposed to the Western obsession with looks, personified in Miss Hilton and Lohan. :m: The common Western view of course. Alternate views here and here. That depends on whether the uproar was critical does it not? Again, please point me to said uproar in mainstream media?
My apologies, this is going off topic, but worth pursuing. I have taken the liberty to move this discussion to a new thread over here.
Half-hearted traitor! The Definition of Zionism is Genocidal Apartheid, and Racist Aggression is an inalienable feature of the Jew. Do not undermine The Moral Imperative with your bleeting concessions to PC fascism, lest you be Cast into the Crucible of Justice with the rest of the Murderers.
